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LenFagan
Here is a heads up..........I'm not sure if you guys know that we are selling nylon gear made by one of the best. Mike "Diz" Dismuke has a small tactical nylon business in Waxhaw N.C. called Unconventional Warfare Gear(U/W Gear) and we have teamed up with him on a few items that you folks might be interested in. Mike aka "Diz" is a Recon Marine and a FFA certified parachute rigger who sews all his products one at a time. His stuff is being "used" by our countrys best!

Here is a quick rundown:

Hats:

-One size fits most tactical ballcap
-3" x 2" velcro on front
-1" x 1" velcro on crown
-4" x 1" velcro on back
-1" mil-spec webbing and hardware on back for adjustment
-Khaki tan, Ranger Green
-comes with the AA Shield patch

Slings:

-2-point, quick adjustable tac design
-1 1/4" mil-spec webbing and hardware
-mil-spec construction
-Quick release feature available (if required)
-Khaki tan, Ranger Green, Foliage Green

Belts:

-1 3/4" 5-stitch Riggers Belt (actually made by a FAA certified senior parachute rigger)
-mil-spec hardware and webbing
-milspec construction
-Generous cut for CCW use
-Khaki tan, Ranger Green, Foliage Green

Drag Bags:

-custom-made for your particular AA rifle
-simple, rugged scabbard design
-a wide variety of drag/carry options and other features available to suit your needs
-Khaki Tan, Ranger Green, Foliage Green

Chest Rigs:

-custom-made designs to carry mags and gear for your AA rifle
-classic chest rig design
-a wide vareity of pouch configurations and other features to suit your needs
-Khaki Tan, Ranger Green, Foliage Green

Take a look at our website for photos and pricing or give us a call.

Semper Fi,
-Len

Grendelizer
Len, why do they call a riggers belt a "riggers" belt? Sorry for my ignorance! :o

John

LenFagan
This is my take on the subject.......the term "rigger" comes from being made by parachute riggers. The riggers that made these belts did so to identify their trade and wore them as a non-standardized uniform item. They were "sticking it to the man" by being individuals in a world of uniformity. I believe it was a status thing for them at first and then it carried over into the Special Ops community as a working belt. I've emailed Mike to get the facts.
-Len

Grump
Len:

How does that tactical sling work for over-the-course position shooting? I'd hate to add a Freeland-style clamp to keep it on my upper arm. I can also do wonders with a USGI flip-down clamp, though, if the webbing is not too thick.

???AND??? Does it use 1 or 2 more halfway silent clips (I always hated the rattle of the USGI spring steel things) to mount on the swivels, or do we just thread the webbing in? I prefer at least one quick-dismount thingie.

Thanks.

Grump, who's been known to add a big blue rubberband from the produce department to make a sling work for shooting positions.

Diz
Hey Guys:

Len ask me over to esplain what a rigger's belt is. Basically, any belt made by a parachute rigger is a rigger's belt. Military riggers have been making non-regulation belts since about oh, 1775. Just about any webbing or hardware have been used, but the term has come to represent a certain type of belt, made from parachute webbing and hardware, but no longer necessarily made by a certified rigger. The "real deal" is made by a rigger, from "Type 7" webbing with a "friction adapter", which is mil-speak for a buckle, commonly used in parachute harnesses. There are lighter versions, made from "Type 8" webbing and a lighter buckle. These are commonly sold at exchanges and surplus stores. As far as holding your pants up (trou to you Jarheads), they all work just fine.

There is also another connotation for a rigger's belt, which is for an emergency extraction rig. These belts were built to 6,000 lb test, same as parachute harnesses, and had an added "delta" ring, usually in front, but sometimes also in the rear for Aussie style rappel. When combined with a loop of 1" tubular nylon, in a "figure 8", which you stepped through, creating leg straps, and a 'biner (rigged through the delta and the strap), you had a johnny home-maker rap or extraction harness. Again the "real deal" belts were made by riggers, using machines, materials, and techniques borrowed from parachute work. The commercial equivalents you see with "delta" rings are mostly for looks only. If I didn't know what the testing standard was on a particular belt, I sure as heck wouldn't trust it. YMMV. Push come to shove, it may work in an emergency, just remember it was designed to work in conjunction with a leg strap. So if you use it by itself, you're gonna at least tear all the belt loops out of your pants (USMC: trou), and prolly tweak your back.

The belts made for AA are actually made by a certified rigger (me), with Type 7 webbing and parachute hardware. In fact, the hardware comes from surplus MC-1 parachute harnesses from Fayetteville, NC, so the buckle you get on these belts is actually "airborne" qualified! One feature you will find on AA belts, that to my knowledege no else does, is a chafing strip. This is a piece of Type 12 webbing that is put in between the hardware and the main webbing and sewn in place. The idea being any sharp edges left on the hardware will cut the chafing strip and not the main strap. This is standard on military parachute work and I carried it forward on my rigger belts. Is it really needed? Maybe not, but I figure you have mil-spec parachute webbing, and hardware, you might as well have mil-spec parachute construction technique as well. Now that's what I call a rigger belt.

Grendelizer
Maybe not, but I figure you have mil-spec parachute webbing, and hardware, you might as well have mil-spec parachute construction technique as well. Now that's what I call a rigger belt.

And there ya have it! Thanks, Diz. You, apparently, know your stuff.

And the barbarian horde of the Grendel Nation welcomes you! :D

Seriously, God's richest blessing on your business ventures!

John

thmpr
what is the webiste link?

LR1955
Len:

How does that tactical sling work for over-the-course position shooting? I'd hate to add a Freeland-style clamp to keep it on my upper arm. I can also do wonders with a USGI flip-down clamp, though, if the webbing is not too thick.

???AND??? Does it use 1 or 2 more halfway silent clips (I always hated the rattle of the USGI spring steel things) to mount on the swivels, or do we just thread the webbing in? I prefer at least one quick-dismount thingie.

Thanks.

Grump, who's been known to add a big blue rubberband from the produce department to make a sling work for shooting positions.

Grump:

You are better off shooting over the course with either a Service or Match Rifle sling. The tac slings are basically a hasty sling set up providing they have a device that allows for quick tightening and release like a lock cleat. I haven't seen any that are good tac slings and good over the course slings.

LR1955

LenFagan
I agree with LR1955. This sling is great option for an all-around carry and for hasty use. It is not a dedicated service rifle sling.

Here are the links:

http://www.alexanderarms.com/siteshopper.htm?cat=2

http://www.alexanderarms.com/siteshopper.htm?cat=11

-Len

Bill
I have been using one of the tac slings for some time and as with many of the things I work with it has little place in competition. Equally I will say that many of the competition set ups are best left for the sport and should never try to find their way in the field. Hence this sling.

Like a lot of items currently in the market it seems a bit daft to build yet another sling and if we had followed the usual rules it would be. I haul a rifle for miles when I need to. I cannot afford anything to be heavy or to break. The rifle needs to sling muzzle down over the shoulder across the back and if I bend or crouch I do not want to have to dig the muzzle out of the ground. I should be able to climb fences, run and scramble under thorn bushes without snagging. Everything must be quiet, not rub sores, rust or break. The one thing I am not concerned with is instant access from the carry position so long as I can scramble in and out of the sling in heavy clothing or light burlap. The last thing it must do is to provide a foundation for a good shot from a variety of field positions.

It is funny how marketing will always drive the description. Our tactical trigger is just that but in the age of 2lb two stage units which I regard as a menace of a gadget of you are shooting from a hide after six hours in mid winter, a better description might be "not a bad deer trigger" . Just so with this sling. Diz built a magnificantly strong and simple two point mount sling. It is simple enough that even I can figure out how it works. It might be better called " a useful sling"

Bill Alexander