Trigger Advice

I know the standard AR trigger is not exactly a precision helping item. So I would like a little insight on triggers.

I've looked at the RRA 2-stage, I see LMT has a 2-stage and also AA has a single stage trigger. Anyone used these, have any advise?

I have some time as I just ordered all the parts for the upper, will be a month or two for lower parts.

Thanks

I have stock triggers done by Bill Springfield http://triggerwork.net/index.html Then I added JP lightweigh trigger and hammer spring set. He does an excellent job for the money and I got my trigger back from him in one week.

old Sneaky Pete here: Very Basic!!!--2 stage (common military) Take Up the Slack--apply steady pressure, and bang. Whereas a Single stage has NO Tale-Up, No Slack just steady pressure and bang(wih no over-travel)--the adjustment of trigger pressure can be from several ounces to several pounds. Obviously both camps proclaim that theirs is best( for them) I have shot both--perfer my 3 very light Single-stage--2# or less BUT I also shoot my M-1 Garand(2 stage) and a Swedish Sniper rifle. Try eash and which one works for you is BEST. THANX--SNEAKY :)

I'm running a Mega tactical trigger now and loving it. MUCH BETTER than the old stock DPMS. Uses stock hammer but is single stage and very crisp. Adjustable for creep and overtravel. Major improvement. Plus they're only $86 for a black one. They look pretty tacticool too. Using JP springs on mine I get a trigger pull of around 2.5-3 lbs.

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1852

Ya know,

For an AR you can't beat the Timney Drop in's. They are super easy, reliable and shooter-proof (you can't mess it up). They are comparable in price and feel really nice. Just use some of those KNS Gen 2 Non Rotating trigger pin dog bones to keep your pins in place and you are set.

Mutt

The dominant trigger used in the National Matches is the Geissele Automatics.
There is good reason for that, they are very consistent and hold up to 10's of thousands of rounds. No single stage trigger can compare or is even used widely. http://www.geissele.com/

I have a couple of Jewell triggers, got those before Gisselle came on the scene. a JP adjustable and a couple of the RR two stage. Jewell is the best, JP, ok, The Rock River for the dollar is the best bet. I lightly touched the sear surfaces with a very fine ceramic stone and they are almost as good as the Jewell, at almost half the price.

+1 for the Bill Springfield trigger job. I have had Bill do 4 trigger jobs for me to date. I am getting ready to send him another. He is VERY reasonable and does a great job.

I have a Geissele SSA and a RRA NM 2-Stage on 2 rifles. I actually like the RRA better, as it's lighter. Both are MUCH nicer than factory single stage triggers. For the money, I'd say the RRA NM is the best. Beyond that, you're paying for fractions of pounds improvement.

+1 for Geissele SSA. Smooth. You know when it's going to go bang...

I have a Geissele SSA and a RRA NM 2-Stage on 2 rifles. I actually like the RRA better, as it's lighter. Both are MUCH nicer than factory single stage triggers. For the money, I'd say the RRA NM is the best. Beyond that, you're paying for fractions of pounds improvement.
Are you aware you can get two lighter spring tensions for your Geissele?

I have three AR lowers with the following triggers. An RRA single stage, a RRA NM 2-stage & a Geissele Hi Speed Match.
The RRA single is dependable but heavy with a rough pull. Someday I’ll send it in & have Bill Springfield work on it.
RRA’s 2-stage is a major step up and more than likely adequate for most people’s needs outside of precision stuff. Mine has been fine for ~2000 rounds. It would be fine for on a hunting gun. I’ve heard rumor that in the long term their dependability is in question due to doubling.
The one I mainly shoot is the Geissele. It’s probably not the right choice for a SHTF gun but since I divorced my 1st wife the **** doesn’t hit the fan much in my life much anymore :D . The individual stages are adjustable. I run the second stage light for target work & add some weight to it for hunting/field use. Granted it was expensive but I find it a joy to shoot. Very smooth & predictable… I kind of look at it as having a Ferrari & a Volkswagen both parked in the garage. I know which one I’m grabbing the keys for.

I have two Bill Springfields and an AR Gold.

Like the BS's, especially for the money. Both are 3#'ers.

Luv the AR Gold, but its spend-ee.

I have two Bill Springfields and an AR Gold.

Like the BS's, especially for the money. Both are 3#'ers.

Luv the AR Gold, but its spend-ee.

Ernest,

I could not agree more regarding the AR-Gold trigger. I have 3. I've been able to set them for very short sear engagement and light trigger pull. The first stage feels like light take-up. The second stage breaks crisply with the lightest touch. Yet, the triggers are completely safe, due to the intercepting sear. I perform two tests for primary sear release: allowing the bolt to slap shut on an empty chamber without a magazine, and dropping the butt 4 inches to a hard surface covered with a mat.

I adjust as necessary to correct for any sear release by increasing sear engagement, and if necessary increasing the trigger pull. Trigger pull adjustment has a little plunger that bears on the back of the primary sear. Make sure that the plunger fully extends and meets the back of the sear.

FYI newest batch of triggers do not have an overtravel screw. The threaded hole is still there. But, no screw. AR Gold says that it is no longer needed. They have redesigned the trigger frame and the trigger/safety engagement. Selector is now easier to remove with the trigger installed. The older triggers required forward preasure on the trigger to alllow the selector to fall free.

Phil