Mossberg MVP

[Colorado]

It's based off of Mossberg's popular 4x4 bolt rifle, but modified to accept AR-15 magazines. How much interest is there for it to be chambered in our much beloved 6.5G?

http://gunwriter.wordpress.com/2011/05/05/more-information-on-mossbergs-mvp-rifle/

Real world pricing has it from $550-$650, that sounds like a winner for me. I'll get on in 5.56 now, and hold my breath until they come out with one in 6.5G. Who's with me to start a letter writing campaign?

[hm2 clark]

Um.. dooable probably. (1) get doner action $600-$700 (2) get new bolt $100 (3) get and install new barrel $350 (4) rework magazine well so a 6.5 Grendel magazine fits and feeds ?? $100-$200 (5) get entire yhing blued or painted or coated to your liking $200. I'll bet Jim Brockman or Wyats colud do it easily for you.

[warped]

I see no advantage to it and certainly not for that cost.

[bwaites]

Um.. dooable probably. (1) get doner action $600-$700 (2) get new bolt $100 (3) get and install new barrel $350 (4) rework magazine well so a 6.5 Grendel magazine fits and feeds ?? $100-$200 (5) get entire yhing blued or painted or coated to your liking $200. I'll bet Jim Brockman or Wyats colud do it easily for you.

Grendel mags are dimensionally the same as 5.56 mags externally, so you shouldn't have to do anything to the mag well.

To bad that none of the Savage rifles were configured to run AR mags, since you wouldn't even have to have a gunsmith install the barrel!

[Bill Alexander]

It might be opportune to back Mossberg in such a venture. They are a very receptive company and we have been chatting with their management for some time. I would note that the MVP will work with the Grendel cartridge, feeding and ejecting well.

[Zach987]

I was just thinking about this last night at work looking over the Mossberg catalog. I like the enthusiasm from Bill about it too! I think it would be a big winner for everyone involved.

[Von Gruff]

Have some of the earlier concerns expressed over the bolts head design with the drop down split head feature.

In this review there were other concerns on feeding reliability and weight of bolt lift

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The AR-15 magazine was designed to sit much lower in the receiver than normal hunting rifles, and so the next cartridge coming off the magazine is a little bit too low for a normal style bolt to pick up. Mossberg’s solution to this problem wass to design a bolt with a lower half that splits open and a lower section that digs down into the magazine to grab that next round.

The impact of having a magazine that sits that low is no bueno for reliability. I had more than a few instances where the round ended up off center and the bolt failed to chamber the round on the first try. I get the feeling this is due to the spring in the mag “popping” the round up as it leaves the feed lips, causing the round to lodge slightly sideways rather than feeding smoothly into the chamber. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/09/foghorn/gun-review-mossberg-mvp/

The bolt itself looks great at first glance — the handle feels nice and grippy and it looks very pretty — but once in action, it’s not as pleasant as it would seem. It takes more force to get the bolt open than I’d like, requiring a firm grip on the bolt handle to crack the thing open rather than giving me the ability to simply use the side of my hand as I prefer. That’s not to say it’s terrible, just very heavy for such a light and small caliber.

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I do think the ability to use different magazine capacity for different applications should be a bonus but wondered if other real world usage had bourne out the reported doubts I origonally saw expressed?

[Variable]

It might be opportune to back Mossberg in such a venture. They are a very receptive company and we have been chatting with their management for some time. I would note that the MVP will work with the Grendel cartridge, feeding and ejecting well.
Did they make a different bolt? Did you modify one? The reason I ask is because I was wondering if there was even enough meat in a 5.56 MVP bolt face to open it up to Grendel dimension and still have the dropping "feed" portion be thick enough. I thought we'd have to wait until they made a dedicated 7.62x39 sized bolt face to work with?
For those wanting to see the MVP bolt face--- Here is a link: http://www.shootingillustrated.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/W7537SI-1158.jpg (I didn't want to steal the pic onto the board and incur the wrath of the netgods!:) )

[Bill Alexander]

Seems viable from where I am standing! Would require it's own bolt for production.

[Ullr]

If they shoot, I'll take two!

[rkflorey]

From reading posts of people who have or are having a bolt Grendel built they seem to like the idea of longer than mag length ammo. Seems like using an AR magazine limits that capability unless you single load. Kevin

[Bill Alexander]

There is a difference between a production weapon that must meet production standards and allow for interchange of ammo across all platforms and a custom set up

[Variable]

Seems viable from where I am standing! Would require it's own bolt for production.
LOL, Roger that! That's good enough for me.:)

I sure do hope they make them. That'd be a sweet little rifle.

[kc215]

I called a couple of times and asked. I fondled a couple 5.56 versions at a gun shop earlier this week. Cheaper one had a shorter, lower profile barrel and standard stock. Other had a heavier fluted, longer barrel with a better bench/target stock. Both stocks had nice engraving, and the trigger is clean and crisp. I will try to get an email off tomorrow. The email was what was suggested by the rep I spoke with last from Mossberg. I would be in for one.

[kc215]

So, I emailed then decided to call. I was advised to send a letter to corporate, with attention to engineering. So that will go out in the mail. If anyone is in FL, most of them are at a show somewhere. This is what I was told.

[sneaky one]

BTW, rickflorey I lengthened an AR Grrr mag to run 2.31 oal ammo easily. Both columns. The big manuf. should be able to do the same.

[hm2 clark]

On some further thought a MVP in 6.5 Grendel might not be the best choice. Consider that the current MVP has a 18"barrel and weights in at 8-9 lbs. Sure you could put a longer barrel on it and make it even heavier. But what you want/need in a fast, low recoiling carbine type of hunting gun. Perhaps (may I say it ) a 458 Socom using standared AR magazines would be better suited in a thick woods role; the heavy rifle could better soak up the kick, and standared mags are easier to get,

[Variable]

On some further thought a MVP in 6.5 Grendel might not be the best choice. Consider that the current MVP has a 18"barrel and weights in at 8-9 lbs. Sure you could put a longer barrel on it and make it even heavier. But what you want/need in a fast, low recoiling carbine type of hunting gun. Perhaps (may I say it ) a 458 Socom using standared AR magazines would be better suited in a thick woods role; the heavy rifle could better soak up the kick, and standared mags are easier to get,
It needn't stay 8-9 pounds... The first thing I'd want to do is ditch the laminate stock, use a fluted 16" barrel, etc....

[ricsmall]

It needn't stay 8-9 pounds... The first thing I'd want to do is ditch the laminate stock, use a fluted 16" barrel, etc....

+1. laminate is way heavier than needed. A slimmer profile on stock and barrel would be welcomed.

[Dust]

I would love to have a 7.62x39 or Grendel MVP

[Tikka]

I'd be looking for a 20" barrel with a faster twist rate. Synthetic or laminate stock. I'm actually envisioning something like a Rem. model 7 or scout type rifle.

[Grimmy]

Bad news guys Mossberg released a skew for a 308 this year. So without some poking from the Grendel crew Mossberg will probably not notice.

[bwaites]

Bad news guys Mossberg released a skew for a 308 this year. So without some poking from the Grendel crew Mossberg will probably not notice.

Mossberg has noticed. Patience.....

[Drifter]

Mossberg has noticed. Patience.....

Any updates...?