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  • 6.5 Grendel
    Warrior
    • Nov 2015
    • 199

    Leverevolution looks promising.

    Worked up a load today may have to load a few more. Over all I am very happy. Brass and primers look great. Think I will try 31.8 , 32, 32.2

    20" BHW 1:8
    PPU brass
    123gr SST 2.280
    31.6 gr. of Leverevolution
    CCI 250 mag primer = 1" groups
    2538
    2540
    2539
    2541
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  • LRRPF52
    Super Moderator
    • Sep 2014
    • 8609

    #2
    That's a very tight ES, although only 4 rounds. Will be interesting to see a 10rd string.

    Bwild97 has done a lot of work with that powder, and the data is in Volume II of the handbooks. He got 2740fps with a 24" barrel using 32.5gr of LVR and 123gr SST with Fed 205m and 2.275" COL.
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    • D.Davis
      Warrior
      • Sep 2013
      • 150

      #3
      I use LVR a lot in my Grendel it works great for me with tight groups. Dave.

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      • BluntForceTrauma
        Administrator
        • Feb 2011
        • 3900

        #4
        VERY interested in LVR experiments on the heavier weights! You guys compressing these loads at all?
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        • 6.5 Grendel
          Warrior
          • Nov 2015
          • 199

          #5
          The 31.6gr load is not compressed yet in my PPU brass. I am sure it's getting close.
          "One Good Shot Is All I Need."

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          • D.Davis
            Warrior
            • Sep 2013
            • 150

            #6
            I have shot up to 129 grainers with LVR, I use the long drop tube and shake the cases. Its a tight fit. Some say it is a dirtier CFE but I like it better. In my experience, Dave.

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            • 1911man
              Warrior
              • May 2015
              • 482

              #7
              Originally posted by D.Davis View Post
              I have shot up to 129 grainers with LVR, I use the long drop tube and shake the cases. Its a tight fit. Some say it is a dirtier CFE but I like it better. In my experience, Dave.
              Yeah, I have heard that from a number of people. The consensus seems to be that LVR is CFE without the copper additive. I dont know if that is true, but I would bet LVR is as temp sensative as CFE 223 is.

              Do you know what the distance to the lands is for the SST in your chamber? The reason I ask is you seem to be loading it pretty long compared to what I load my Amax's to. I have some SSTs am I am going to start playing with in my BHW barrel and I am still waiting on my modified case to come in the mail to measure distance to the lands.
              Last edited by 1911man; 01-16-2016, 08:08 PM.

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              • LRRPF52
                Super Moderator
                • Sep 2014
                • 8609

                #8
                129gr SST has a more secant ogive than the 123gr SST or 123gr AMAX, and the BC is higher than Hornady lists.

                Hornady 129gr SST BC: .485 G1
                Litz 129gr SST BC: .495 G1/.247 G7
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                • Allen
                  Bloodstained
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 33

                  #9
                  I can personally attest that LVR is not only dirtier than CFE, but dirtier than any other powder I have ever shot out of my Grendel. I got good groups out of it, but after 10 or so shots my stainless carrier was black.

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                  • 6.5 Grendel
                    Warrior
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 199

                    #10
                    More testing...
                    20" BHW 1:8
                    PPU brass
                    123gr SST 2.270
                    31.8 gr. of Leverevolution = average fps 2555
                    CCI 250 mag primer
                    2553
                    2555
                    2548
                    2560
                    2550
                    ------------------------------------------
                    PPU brass
                    32 gr. of Leverevolution = average fps 2576
                    CCI 250 mag primer
                    2588
                    2580
                    2553
                    2587
                    2570
                    "One Good Shot Is All I Need."

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                    • BluntForceTrauma
                      Administrator
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 3900

                      #11
                      Thanks so much for testing and reporting on this.

                      Where are you at, compression-wise, and how is brass looking as far as pressure signs?
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                      • 1911man
                        Warrior
                        • May 2015
                        • 482

                        #12
                        Originally posted by 6.5 Grendel View Post
                        More testing...
                        20" BHW 1:8
                        PPU brass
                        123gr SST 2.270
                        31.8 gr. of Leverevolution = average fps 2555
                        CCI 250 mag primer
                        2553
                        2555
                        2548
                        2560
                        2550
                        ------------------------------------------
                        PPU brass
                        32 gr. of Leverevolution = average fps 2576
                        CCI 250 mag primer
                        2588
                        2580
                        2553
                        2587
                        2570
                        31.8 has a really nice spread. How was it grouping? That is some really nice velocity out of a 20" pipe.

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                        • 6.5 Grendel
                          Warrior
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 199

                          #13
                          Originally posted by BluntForceTrauma View Post
                          Thanks so much for testing and reporting on this.

                          Where are you at, compression-wise, and how is brass looking as far as pressure signs?
                          32 grs is just below the shoulder in the PPU brass. The brass is holding up great no signs of stress.
                          "One Good Shot Is All I Need."

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                          • 6.5 Grendel
                            Warrior
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 199

                            #14
                            Originally posted by 1911man View Post
                            31.8 has a really nice spread. How was it grouping? That is some really nice velocity out of a 20" pipe.
                            All the Leverevelotion loads so far have ran no bigger than 1 to 1.2" 31.8grs groups right at 1"@ 100 yards. The 32gr load groups around 0.90"
                            Last edited by 6.5 Grendel; 01-22-2016, 05:29 AM.
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                            • kmon
                              Chieftain
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 2096

                              #15
                              Had seen data for Leverevolution powder but never tried it, now thinking I will. Know where I can get a couple bottles cheap so was considering it anyway.

                              I guess it would be fruitless to ask Hodgdon for data on this powder since they say CFE223 is too slow for the Grendel and Leverevolution is listed as slower than it on their burn rate chart.

                              Thinking this would might be a good powder for the 129 and 130gr pills.

                              Thanks for posting your work with this powder

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