Purpose Built Wolf Upper -2nd Grendel: The Addiction Begins...

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  • smithsession8
    Bloodstained
    • Nov 2015
    • 28

    Purpose Built Wolf Upper -2nd Grendel: The Addiction Begins...

    After building my precision grendel, I wanted something to run wolf steel ammo almost exclusively. I already have a "carbine" lower that I use for my 5.56 that got me into ARs, so I just built an upper.

    I tried to keep it as cheap as possible, Still a poor college student! But I'll free float it in the future and I'm considering cutting her down to 10.5" (If anyone has 10.5" Velocities, I would love to take a gander. I haven't been able to find them here)

    Build:
    Double Star M4 Profile barrel
    1:9 carbine length chromemoly
    YHM Phantom 6.8spc flash hider
    YHM Flip up hooded sight gas block
    Anderson BCG
    Anderson Upper
    Magpul Carbine MOE handguard
    Anderson everything else on the upper

    Janice resize.jpg
    (Sorry for the crappy phone pic)

    I got her sighted in, and then put one round dead center of the head on some steel at 100 yards, but then I hand the rifle over to my date and any sense of scientific accuracy testing was done hahaha. It was worth the date though. Next time I take her out I'll try to get some rounds on paper for y'all.

    All in all I love the rifle. I think I'll name her Janice!
  • ahillock
    Warrior
    • Jan 2016
    • 339

    #2
    This is from LRRPF52 in another thread. It is for 11.5" but should give you an idea about what to expect for a 10.5", slightly less than this.


    11.5" with a 129gr ABLR gives you:

    100yds 2066fps 1223ft-lbs
    200yds 1928fps 1065ft-lbs
    300yds 1796fps 924ft-lbs
    400yds 1671fps 800ft-lbs

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    • Chrazy-Chris
      Warrior
      • Aug 2015
      • 169

      #3
      Awesome! I've thought about doing this, too! With the price of the wolf stuff it's a great idea if you have someplace to shoot the steel stuff. Did it do any notable damage on the 100yrd steel compared to standard rounds?

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      • smithsession8
        Bloodstained
        • Nov 2015
        • 28

        #4
        Originally posted by Chrazy-Chris View Post
        Awesome! I've thought about doing this, too! With the price of the wolf stuff it's a great idea if you have someplace to shoot the steel stuff. Did it do any notable damage on the 100yrd steel compared to standard rounds?
        None at all, actually. Just noticeable coloration from the impact like shooting any other FMJs. After I spray painted the target, it looked good as new again. I would definitely recommend building one. I just bought 500 rounds at 26 cents a piece from sgammo.com. I can shoot a lot more at those prices!

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        • The Profit Joseph Sith
          Warrior
          • Nov 2016
          • 596

          #5
          Originally posted by smithsession8 View Post
          None at all, actually. Just noticeable coloration from the impact like shooting any other FMJs. After I spray painted the target, it looked good as new again. I would definitely recommend building one. I just bought 500 rounds at 26 cents a piece from sgammo.com. I can shoot a lot more at those prices!
          <--- this right here! This is why I want a couple dirt cheap 16" grendel barrels. If thier cheap enough .. why not!

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          • smithsession8
            Bloodstained
            • Nov 2015
            • 28

            #6
            Originally posted by The Profit Joseph Sith View Post
            <--- this right here! This is why I want a couple dirt cheap 16" grendel barrels. If thier cheap enough .. why not!
            I bought this double star barrel on the cheap. 140 dollars shipped. It was a sale at the beginning of the summer. Seems to be quality. One day, I'll put some quality ammo through it to test accuracy, but I had some of those wolf rounds keyhole as I was sighting in. I'm excited to take her out again here in the next few weeks. I'll post some groups for sure.

            Also I know Anderson just started making grendel barrels. May be worth looking into. I'm running their bolt in Janice and it's .136. So I suspect it's a SAAMI barrel. May be worth a gander.

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            • Beerswimmer
              Warrior
              • Dec 2015
              • 130

              #7
              My Wolf blaster with a $195 AA barrel. Built for 3 gun, carbine courses, general blasting and home defense. Wasn't expecting too much, but it gets about 1.5-2.5MOA with the Wolf. Equal to or better than what all my 5.56 barrels ever did with M193, 855, or Wolf .223.


              Blurry potato pic:
              UT ALII VIVANT !!!

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              • howl
                Warrior
                • Nov 2015
                • 236

                #8
                Nice. That is pretty much what I have in mind for the Sabre barrel I ordered. How did you find the Anderson BCG?

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                • LRRPF52
                  Super Moderator
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 8612

                  #9
                  From David Fortier

                  Here are factory loads from 20,16 and 12.5 inch


                  Alexander Arms 20 inch GDMR
                  6.5mm Grendel Muzzle Velocity (fps)
                  Alexander Arms 100 grain Berger OTM 2,847
                  Alexander Arms 120 grain Barnes TSX 2,551
                  Alexander Arms 120 grain Nosler BT 2,600
                  Wolf 120 grain MPT 2,541
                  Alexander Arms 123 grain Lapua Scenar 2,627
                  Hornady 123 grain A-MAX 2,582
                  Alexander Arms 129 grain Hornady SST 2,450
                  Alexander Arms 130 grain Swift Scirocco II 2,400

                  Alexander Arms 16 inch Mid-Length carbine
                  6.5mm Grendel Muzzle Velocity (fps)
                  Alexander Arms 100 grain Berger OTM 2,723
                  Alexander Arms 120 grain Barnes TSX 2,494
                  Alexander Arms 120 grain Nosler BT 2,535
                  Wolf 120 grain MPT 2,445
                  Alexander Arms 123 grain Lapua Scenar 2,523
                  Hornady 123 grain A-MAX 2,463
                  Velocities are averages of five shots measured on an Oehler 35P chronograph 12 feet from the muzzle at an ambient temperature of 90 degrees F at 1030 feet above Sea Level.

                  Alexander Arms 12.5 inch 6.5mm Grendel
                  Alexander Arms 100 grain Berger OTM 2470
                  Alexander Arms 123 grain Scenar OTM 2330
                  Velocity figures are 10 shot averages recorded on an Oehler 35P placed 12 feet from the muzzle 1,030 feet above Sea Level at an ambient temperature of 30 degrees F.

                  *Note the low temps with the 12.5 inch gun
                  A 10.5" will push the 123gr at around 2240fps, +/- 99fps.
                  NRA Basic, Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, RSO

                  CCW, CQM, DM, Long Range Rifle Instructor

                  6.5 Grendel Reloading Handbooks & chamber brushes can be found here:

                  www.AR15buildbox.com

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                  • smithsession8
                    Bloodstained
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 28

                    #10

                    I asked them about some of the specs and it's everything we hope for including the .136 head space

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                    • howl
                      Warrior
                      • Nov 2015
                      • 236

                      #11
                      Thanks. Pretty sure I'll get at least one, maybe two.

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                      • smithsession8
                        Bloodstained
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 28

                        #12
                        Went shooting with friends this weekend and brought my new DSLR. I can work on my photography, but this is by far the best pic of Janice I have. Thought I'd update since it's the Photo Gallery.
                        I tried my hand for the first time and painted the receivers with Brownell's Alumahyde II Coyote. I love the way it turned out personally. I dig the slight contrast with the Magpul FDE. I'm debating painting the scope as well. Let me know your thoughts!

                        DSC_0194 resz.jpg

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                        • VASCAR2
                          Chieftain
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 6227

                          #13
                          Looks great! How does it shoot? My J&T does really good especially considering 1:9 twist carbine gas non free floated barrel.

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                          • 65Whelen
                            Warrior
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 671

                            #14
                            I call this guy the Warthog, it's my fun gun to use with wolf ammo. Love this thing what a blast.

                            14.5" Sabre barrel
                            Aero handguard
                            Rainer Arms upper w/o forward assist
                            PF BCG
                            PF Grendel lower
                            Giessele SSA-E trigger
                            MFT buttstock
                            Attached Files
                            Last edited by 65Whelen; 01-25-2017, 04:10 AM.

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                            • rabiddawg
                              Chieftain
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 1664

                              #15
                              Originally posted by smithsession8 View Post
                              painted the receivers with Brownell's Alumahyde II Coyote. I love the way it turned out personally. I dig the slight contrast with the Magpul FDE. I'm debating painting the scope as well.

                              Let me know your thoughts!

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                              Ok, since you asked and I want to try and steer some discussion toward painting a scope.

                              First off all I Really like what you did with that rifle (I'm not a fan of camo) Imo, it is hard to pull off a two tone paint scheme on an ar without it looking forced and/or unfinished. Very good use of color there.

                              Imo the mount and optic need to be painted to finish the job, but what color and what would be the drawbacks to painting a scope? Would it void the warranty, gum up an adjustment etc? Talk me into it or out of it.

                              I am going to paint at least one of mine someday. I hope I can pull it off as well as you did.
                              Knowing everthing isnt as important as knowing where to find it.

                              Mark Twain

                              http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showt...2-Yd-Whitetail

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