What are you planning for your threaded Howa?

[lrgrendel]

Bought this for my TC COMPASS 6.5 Creedmoor for $75...

https://www.kygunco.com/Product/View?ItemNo=125024

Might try it on my Howa if I ever get it threaded.

I suspect more suppressors than brakes?

[Sticks]

Since I just paid to have mine done....I went with the VG6 6.5 brake. Was planning on the Atlas from Odin Works, but I have deadlines and a budget that has already been blown out of the water.

Ultimately they will be fitted for suppressors. Time and money.

[grayfox]

Voodoo Innovations jet comp.
Several MB's will reduce recoil and muzzle jump 30-35%, some up to I think 60 (APA Lil B** but its $$$).
Lots of guys are using the VG6.

[Nodak]

Crux 6.5mm Saxon suppressor. Another couple months and she'll be all mine.

https://cruxsuppressors.com/collections/260-cal-6-5-mm/products/saxon6-5suppressor

[LRRPF52]

ThunderBeast sent me 4 muzzle devices.

One will go on my 12" AR15 pistol.

I need a 9/16x24 from them if I'm going to thread my Howa Mini because the muzzle is much smaller, won't work with 5/8x24.

[lrgrendel]

ThunderBeast sent me 4 muzzle devices.

One will go on my 12" AR15 pistol.

I need a 9/16x24 from them if I'm going to thread my Howa Mini because the muzzle is much smaller, won't work with 5/8x24.

Why won't it work?

The TC Compass came theaded 5/8 x 24, it measures 0.65" at the muzzle and that Mammoth brake I bought was designed for and obviously fits my rifle.

My Howa mini measures 0.73" at the muzzle.20171124_214642-1238x696.jpg

[Nodak]

Mabe it's the skinny barrel?

[Sticks]

I was able to get my heavy barrels done at 5/8, but it's close. I think the size steps are 1 level off what one would normally think. Heavy profile is 3/4" diameter. That is about a standard profile for most barrels isn't it? I don't doubt that the standard, especially the pencil profiles would need the 9/16 or even 1/2 threads, even if there were enough meat on them to thread.

[grayfox]

Some standard profile 22" barrels are 0.620 at the muzzle, maybe his is that way.

[lrgrendel]

Maybe I did not make it clear.
The photo is of a barrel that is 0.65” and it is threaded 5/8 x 24

[LRRPF52]

Why won't it work?

The TC Compass came theaded 5/8 x 24, it measures 0.65" at the muzzle and that Mammoth brake I bought was designed for and obviously fits my rifle.

My Howa mini measures 0.73" at the muzzle.[ATTACH=CONFIG]10253[/ATTACH]

That picture is a great illustration of why. There's no shoulder for the muzzle device or a direct-thread suppressor.

With a smaller thread diameter like 9/16x24 (.5625"), you can get a shoulder on something closer to a .700" muzzle. That won't even be small enough for my Howa 22" lightweight profile, which is .575" at the muzzle.

This is why a larger profile at the muzzle supports threading better. I personally like as much meat on the muzzle as possible, not thin walls on the threads.

What I've seen in Europe with these types of barrels is a reflex suppressor that attaches several inches back on the barrel, as well as at the muzzle. That's a 2-point attachment method.

You can also make a step-up bushing for a really thin profile muzzle.

The factory threaded Howa's have a heavy barrel, so no worries.

[grayfox]

I missed that 0.65" ref, sorry. I had a couple of 0.620" barrels at the muzzles, obviously they were too small for 0.625 thread (5/8-anything) I wanted, couple of places I looked when trying to find out what to do with them recommended 0.650 minimum diameters for the 5/8 threads, which your TC meets. I ran into shoulder considerations on my barrels, one of them my GS cut it back and then there was enough for a shoulder/threading, so we were fine.

[lrgrendel]

At the end of the day. My Mammoth muzzle brake with a 5/8 x 24 thread will absolutely thread on to my HOWA HB should I chose to do it.

This is the muzzle brake on the TC COMPASS rifle which is thinner than my Howa.Screenshot_2017-11-25-13-36-16-576x324.png

[explorecaves]

lrgrendel - you are talking about muzzle brakes and flash hiders which due to their short oal, are less likely to cause a bullet strike (just a shift in POI which is nominally corrected with a basic sight adjustment). LRRPF52 is talking about for use with a suppressor. Without a shoulder to provide a datum for the suppressor to align to, the chances of you having baffle strikes increases exponentially. Now there is the possibility of going with a muzzle device similar to the SCAR that indexes off the muzzle rather than the shoulder....