So if California's new laws make it illegal for state and local LEO to assist ICE with illegal aliens, the legalization of pot etc. What would keep Conservative states from legalizing/ reversing any anti gun laws that the federal govt might pass in the future?
Sooo.... Cali's new laws
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Right. They are opening the door for chaos. I disagree with many “gun laws”, but follow them because it’s rule. Without cooperation from states on major issues such as immigration/pot smoking, chaos will ensue.
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Many States have passed the Firearms Freedom Act, but the Federal Government claims supremacy, so those laws aren't legal according to the Feds.
It all makes sense if you just don't think about it.
Pass your own controlled substance and immigration laws in the State? That's ok.
Pass your own firearms laws? Not ok.
See how that logic works out perfectly?
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actually the pot laws are being used to deny firearm sales.
its illegal under federal law, and a dis qualifier now
i think the cali ammo via mail can be fought in court, that is interstate commerce, and under the federal gov jurisdictionjust some targets for printing
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Originally posted by mdram View Postactually the pot laws are being used to deny firearm sales.
its illegal under federal law, and a dis qualifier now
i think the cali ammo via mail can be fought in court, that is interstate commerce, and under the federal gov jurisdiction
(a) Commencing January 1, 2018, a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state unless he or she first has that ammunition delivered to a licensed ammunition vendor for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 30312.Unless you have a 03FFL and CA CoE.(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following5) A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, whose licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710
What is bad is that if I want to do an early morning hunt in California (I'm in Nevada) I have to wait for a sporting goods store to open up so I can buy ammo because I can't bring ammo into the state. I'm still not clear on whether I can buy ammo in California and then take it back to Nevada and later return with it.
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I don't believe there is any amendment allowing the Federal government to claim supremacy over firearms issues.
The fact that they have done so is related to interstate commerce.
That is why I can buy and sell firearms to other citizens in my state with only a sales receipt.
The sales receipt is not strictly necessary but provides proof a legal sales transaction was made.
California has no state right to keep and bear arms. How convenient!
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Originally posted by sschefer View PostIf you live in California then here is your solution.
(a) Commencing January 1, 2018, a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state unless he or she first has that ammunition delivered to a licensed ammunition vendor for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 30312.Unless you have a 03FFL and CA CoE.(b) Subdivision (a) does not apply to any of the following5) A person who is licensed as a collector of firearms pursuant to Chapter 44 (commencing with Section 921) of Title 18 of the United States Code and the regulations issued pursuant thereto, whose licensed premises are within this state, and who has a current certificate of eligibility issued by the Department of Justice pursuant to Section 26710
What is bad is that if I want to do an early morning hunt in California (I'm in Nevada) I have to wait for a sporting goods store to open up so I can buy ammo because I can't bring ammo into the state. I'm still not clear on whether I can buy ammo in California and then take it back to Nevada and later return with it.
Move.Let's go Brandon!
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Originally posted by sschefer View PostWhat is bad is that if I want to do an early morning hunt in California (I'm in Nevada) I have to wait for a sporting goods store to open up so I can buy ammo because I can't bring ammo into the state. I'm still not clear on whether I can buy ammo in California and then take it back to Nevada and later return with it.
My deepest condolences to California. At one time it really was a great place to be. No more. Such potential and wealth wasted. Watching it's continued decline over the next decade or two will be painful.Paul Peloquin
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Originally posted by ricsmall View PostRight. They are opening the door for chaos. I disagree with many “gun laws”, but follow them because it’s rule.
Originally posted by ricsmall View PostWithout cooperation from states on major issues such as immigration/pot smoking, chaos will ensue.Last edited by stanc; 01-10-2018, 12:34 AM.
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IMO California is a lost cause, Trillion or more in debt and no end in sight, one big quake and it will fold in many ways and gun/ammo law's will be least of anyone's concerns....at the point the Makers get outnumbered by the Takers there will be issues....In my State 52% of population pays Taxes, 48% does not and the politicians wonder why they have so many budget issues ? go figure....only ONE City in my State has not LOST population in last 5 years and when the tax base keeps shrinking ? then what ? People should be leaving California.....for many reasons....my rant....
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