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    Why Gunowners in “Free States” need to pay attention to their elections.

    Folks,


    While we gunowners stuck behind the iron curtain here in Commiefornia await to see what our overlords are going to legislate next. I have a stern warning, don’t take anything for granted. Especially your Second Amendment rights.
    Don’t say it can’t happen here. Yes it can. Vote for pro 2A candidates, fight every bastard that even has a slight anti gun stance. California is gone. A law is passed, an Appeals Court puts a stay on it, it is overturned by En Banc decision. The 9th Circuit is a group of left wing idiots, and deserve to be replace.
    The feeling of powerlessness is overwhelming. The chance to “do something” has long since passed. Yes I vote, yes I am an NRA member. I donate to my state organizations to fight the dipshits in Sacramento. I cannot leave, it is not my fault, I have voted for the “right candidates”. But we continue to lose.
    Our biggest threat is coming, shit for brains Brown is out this fall. Gavin Newsom is a royal POS. The worst of the worst, he has no problem signing anti gun bills. Up to and including confiscation, no joke.
    Take heed, because what’s happening to us, could happen to you. A2

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    I'm in total agreement with your stance, always vote in the off years, State elections are our most important tool to stem the tide of the Anti's goals. Thankfully there are only two areas here in GA where the libs have the upper hand, Chatham county and the city of Atlanta. As luck would have it we have a former Navy SEAL running for Governor, conservative Republican, on our upcoming ticket.

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    i always pay attention.
    but we are overruled bu the balt/dc corridor. doesnt matter how i vote.
    well usually anyway
    i only give to state orginizations, the nra needs to get a backbone, then maybe

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    I look to what happened in Connecticut when the people decided not to register their guns over an unconstitutional law.
    Law enforcement backed down from what I heard although it is only temporary, I guess.
    Check out the 10th Amendment Center for more information about nullification of unconstitutional laws.
    http://tracking.tenthamendmentcenter.com/
    I feel your pain when your rights are being taken away.

    http://www.keepandbeararms.com/newsa...&articleid=309
    http://www.keepandbeararms.com/infor...em.asp?ID=1052
    https://ballotpedia.org/Article_I,_C...a_Constitution

    Here is a proposed amendment. This may be your only hope.
    http://terryism.com/crkba/

    States with RKBA in their constitution.
    https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2008/...itutional.html
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    CA has more conservatives than all the surrounding States combined, but their votes don't count because corrupt city councils, State legislature, and the big city organized crime rings have Gerrymadered all the districts so that conservative constitutionalist are marginalized, while the State continues to indoctrinate the future generations into socialist servitude, via the current generation of teachers who were taught the same hate-America agenda in the last generation.

    Organized crime rings solidified their takeover of the major cities back in the 1920s and 1930s during prohibition, on a backdrop of corruption dating back to 1850. Los Angeles started as small town with around 1300 inhabitants in the wake of the Gold Rush. Farmers and shopkeepers looking to make an honest living were preyed upon by "...gamblers, disillusioned miners from the Sierra foothills, saloonkeepers, horse thieves, and renegades."

    LAPD's own website even includes the admission that the department was filled with scandal back then, but shows nowhere on the timeline where the department was cleaned up between then and now. Politicians, Sheriffs, city councilmen, school board administrators, newspapermen, etc. were all bought off as the money flowed in from alcohol, prostitution, narcotics, extortion, and racketeering profits. Several chiefs tried to clean up the corruption, but their efforts were always short-lived.

    Starting in 1920 and for the better part of the next 20 years, varying levels of corruption tainted local government and the Department. This was the era of prohibition and the Depression. Known as a wide-open town, Los Angeles attracted the worst elements produced by the times. Crooked politicians, racketeers, bootleggers, and judges enjoyed immunity to arrest. The City was all but totally in the hands of bosses who controlled elected officials, dictating police appointments and promotions while garnering huge sums from booze, gambling, and vice. During one 15-month period, more than 100 of the Department’s 1,200 officers were dismissed on one or another charge of misconduct. Accompanying these conditions were widespread labor unrest and protests from revolutionary activists.

    This is not to imply that progress had been stalled in the Police Department. A merit system was implemented in 1920, followed in 1922 by salary increases and the appointment of the first Deputy Chief and Inspector of Detectives. The City’s population by now neared one million and its territory had expanded to 363 square miles.
    Source: LAPD Online Department History: 1900-1925

    One of the LAPD Chiefs, James E. Davis, decided to declare war against rum-smugglers and gun-toters, calling for them to be brought in dead.

    In addition to stressing marksmanship, Davis sought successfully to make LAPD officers known worldwide as firearm experts. He initiated the dragnet system for tracking down wanted criminals, stressed the value of statistics for determining crime trends, and fired more than 240 officers for "bad conduct."

    Davis' successor, Chief Roy E. Steckel, implemented the Department's first air patrol in 1931, assigning 10 officers to a fixed wing squadron. But public confidence in the Department left much to be desired. In an effort to restore trust, Mayor John C. Porter (1929-1933) hired a former LAPD detective to maintain surveillance over the Department, assisted by private investigators who soon acquired the name of "super snoopers." They were equipped with police Captain badges and ordered to spy on the high City officials. They functioned for three years before the City Council dispensed with their services.

    Meanwhile in San Francisco ( a wide open town), the Mayor "Sunny Jim" Rolph owned his own whorehouse. He later became the Governor of CA, known as "Governor Lynch" for promising to pardon any of the vigilantes who had lynched a pack of kidnapper/murderers.

    CA major cities at the time were hotbeds of vigilantism, racial discrimination, riots, murders, corrupt police and city councils, mayors, mini-wars between labor and business, and downright lawlessness in many regards. As the population increased and 2 major World Wars galvanized the Nation, the room for the politically-corrupt got much more comfortable, hidden among one of the largest economies in the world.

    Police work was allowed to focus on street criminals, as long as it didn't interfere with corrupt city and State officials and their networks of underworld financiers.

    Nanci Pelosi, for example, is the daughter of mafia Mayor of Boston and Massachusetts Congressman Thomas D'Alesandro Jr. There are real names you can place on these vampiric vermin who make life hard for law-abiding people who just want to live the American dream and enjoy their freedom.

    California's sordid history of Wild West violence, criminal syndicates taking over municipal and State government, and the balance of abuse of power and citizen unrest is a very interesting journey if you're ever inclined to study it. The relevance to CA dwellers who pay attention to elections is that you are presented with candidates who have been financed by the corrupt system, no matter what party they run under. Organized crime control over the joke 2-party system has dominated CA elections for generations.
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    We're dealing with the same BS here in New York. We have a governor that does whatever he wants, without impunity. Everyone connected to him has been indicted for some type of criminal activity. Even Preet Bhara, the Fed prosecutor before Pres Trump fired him, wouldn't go after Cuomo. His blatant attacks on the 2A have been upheld by his appointees in State courts as well as the 2nd Circuit.

    Last election, he said upstate NY didn't matter because all he had to do was win the 5 NYC counties. We have residents of a 300 square mile area control the politics of the entire state. And if the Dems ever get the popular vote pushed through, they will control the entire country.

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    Small wonder that these same vermin want to keep guns away from the law abiding citizen while making things easier for white collar and violent criminals.

    Of course, the increased crime rates makes it easier to “justify” draconian gun laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1075 tech View Post
    We're dealing with the same BS here in New York. We have a governor that does whatever he wants, without impunity. Everyone connected to him has been indicted for some type of criminal activity. Even Preet Bhara, the Fed prosecutor before Pres Trump fired him, wouldn't go after Cuomo. His blatant attacks on the 2A have been upheld by his appointees in State courts as well as the 2nd Circuit.

    Last election, he said upstate NY didn't matter because all he had to do was win the 5 NYC counties. We have residents of a 300 square mile area control the politics of the entire state. And if the Dems ever get the popular vote pushed through, they will control the entire country.
    New York City and other metro areas of that State have been under the control of organized crime dating back to the 1800s as well.

    The first firearms, knife, and club/personal protection laws were passed so that shopkeepers, citizens, and law-abiders couldn't protect themselves from armed racketeers and extortionists, especially when the new wave of immigrants moved in, threatening the turf of established gangs who have occupied city and State government before them.

    They passed the unconstitutional laws, then issued permits to their henchmen so they could enjoy a competitive advantage over the new entrants to their market. The Sullivan Law of 1911 illustrates how corrupt that system was and still is, since it is the baseline for much of the firearms legislation around the Nation now in organized crime-controlled cities and States. The NRA/ILA has some interesting articles on this, including more recent assaults like the mandatory firearms registration scheme put in place in 1967.

    When organized crime controls the press, they get to control the narrative and information that is disseminated to the masses. These dirtbags look at us as measly peasants to be ruled and chained on their terms. Information about their criminality threatens them to a degree, but since they own the judges, they know they can beat the long game in the rare chance that they are indicted.
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    What about Hillary? Involved in this issue?

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    Great synopsis gentlemen, the battle always continues even in very pro gun states like Montana. My home town has become a nest of leftist freaks who's obese, alcoholic mayor banned private sales of firearms in the city limits, even after the State Attorney General stated it violated constitutional state law. After the city's attorneys spent a small fortune, the state supreme court ruled it violated state law and was thrown out. usmcm16a2 advice is prophetic and should never be dismissed. The fight always begins at the local level.

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    I used to go to the local borough meeting to make sure they knew there were a few conservatives out here.
    I have to start going again.

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    Like Montana points out it starts small, at the city council, mayor level you get asshole liberals that want to change. Before you know it, boys are girls, guns are prohibited and your taxes are raised. A2

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    Democrats=Republicans and Republicans=Democrats! Just look at how people who called each other the devil while running for office have dinner and parties together after their terms are over. Just wait till President Trump and former President Obama team up for some cause once Presidents Trump's time in office is over. Don't be surprised if Hillary is at the dinner table with them! They have teamed up to screw us all.

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    One thing you can do is generate movement for State legislation that solidifies 2A clauses in State Constitutions.

    Most of the headway being gained by anti-Constitutionalist, anti-freedom proponents is in the States.

    At the Federal level, we've actually been pushing back some of the terrible laws post-68, Heller being one of them.

    At State levels, CCW laws have pushed back and taken ground from the NYC-inspired mafia anti-self protection laws in the image of Sullivan.

    National Reciprocity has a lot of traction in the House.
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    You are absolutely right about generating a state movement for pro gun legislation. In Montana, Gary Marbut has almost single handily saved our gun rights with his organization, The Montana Shooting Sports Association http://www.mtssa.org/. Check it out and support like minded organizations in your own states.

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