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  • BCHunter
    Warrior
    • Jan 2018
    • 555

    Anti seize on barrel nut or not.

    According to The complete AR assembly guide vol 2. They recommend to put anti seize on the barrel nut. I've seen you tubes that also recomnd it.. and forum post against it. Is this an outdated technique?

    What do you do and why or why not?
  • centerfire
    Warrior
    • Dec 2017
    • 681

    #2
    You absolutely have to lubricate the barrel nut. Aeroshell 33MS is the milspec grease. A lot of people use copper based antiseize because it has similar properties but it is not technically correct. If you don't use a lubricant you will not reach the correct torque spec and will likely gaul the threads. It is also highly recommended to burnish/stretch the threads by going through multiple torque/relief cycles (tighten, loosen, tighten).

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    • 204 AR
      Warrior
      • Sep 2015
      • 239

      #3
      I always use it for the reasons centerfire mentioned. Copper antiseize. Did not know there was a special grease, just used what I had lol.

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      • Wafavre2
        Warrior
        • Feb 2017
        • 142

        #4
        The torque value is different for a lubricated nut vs. a dry nut. Anti seize coumpounds are not the same as some use graphite and are not friendly to Stainless. The best recommendation to follow is what the Manufacturer recommends. If there are no instructions I would go with a dry nut and the torque and loosen 3 times, then torque to the recommended torque.

        Will
        Rotating Equipment Specialist for 35 years

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        • centerfire
          Warrior
          • Dec 2017
          • 681

          #5
          Originally posted by 204 AR View Post
          I always use it for the reasons centerfire mentioned. Copper antiseize. Did not know there was a special grease, just used what I had lol.
          The correct MilSpec grease uses Molybdenum Disulfide because the graphite in Copper based antiseize causes electrolysis in Aluminum.

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          • BCHunter
            Warrior
            • Jan 2018
            • 555

            #6
            Thank you,

            Great information most information out there is rather vague.

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            • LRRPF52
              Super Moderator
              • Sep 2014
              • 8604

              #7
              The barrel nut installation process changed with the M4 after seeing some weird issues with M4 nuts coming loose that had not been typically seen with the M16 series.

              There was one particular M4 in Swamp Phase of Ranger School that suffered from saltwater corrosion over time, and the barrel, handguards, etc. literally fell off.

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              • Harpoon1
                Chieftain
                • Dec 2017
                • 1122

                #8
                Originally posted by BCHunter View Post
                Thank you,

                Great information most information out there is rather vague.

                This guy has installed a few barrels before and he keeps it simple.

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                • centerfire
                  Warrior
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 681

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Harpoon1 View Post
                  This guy has installed a few barrels before and he keeps it simple.

                  https://youtu.be/DC4CCwk6fEw
                  You'd think a barrel manufacturer wouldn't produce a video demonstrating an incorrect way to install a barrel yet there it is in living color.

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                  • Tex Nomex
                    Warrior
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 185

                    #10
                    Synthetic grease with moly
                    no graphite
                    no zinc
                    no copper
                    no nuthin'
                    "The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed."
                    -- Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-188

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                    • 204 AR
                      Warrior
                      • Sep 2015
                      • 239

                      #11
                      Originally posted by centerfire View Post
                      The correct MilSpec grease uses Molybdenum Disulfide because the graphite in Copper based antiseize causes electrolysis in Aluminum.

                      That makes sense, I know the old aluminum house wiring had issues when hooked to copper. Over time it might be an issue, but I've had several apart and never saw any type of corrosion. I think if it was bare aluminum it could be much more of an issue.

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                      • ClutchAutomatic
                        Warrior
                        • Jan 2018
                        • 121

                        #12
                        I always use aeroshell on the nut and barrel

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                        • Klem
                          Chieftain
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 3512

                          #13
                          I use Castrol LMM grease. It's moly-based so it's dark grey/black.

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                          • rwh
                            Warrior
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 188

                            #14
                            A tube of this will last forever. I keep mine in a metal paint can. You can get smaller quantities but you never know when you will neeed to lubricate your air liner and this will come in handy. https://www.amazon.com/AeroShell-Gre...roshell+-+33ms

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                            • AZHTfreak
                              Warrior
                              • Jan 2017
                              • 316

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ClutchAutomatic View Post
                              I always use aeroshell on the nut and barrel
                              This, and you can build 2,784 rifles with the $4 tub... Or thereabouts...

                              Last edited by AZHTfreak; 02-11-2018, 02:18 AM.
                              DOJ+FBI+IRS+AFT=NKVD. Joe Stalin and Lavrentiy Pavlovich Beria are tap dancing in hell right now...

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