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    The Growing Horde

    Maybe it's my imagination but since the SAAMI acceptance of the Grendel there seen to be an increase of new member to the Horde. Yes, no???

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    Cant do nuttn but help for sure. I have had mine for over four years now, and choose it over the 6.8 mainly because of the people on this forum and the old site before it fell.
    Now if we could get somebody to build a descent mag you didnt bend on to get dagum thing to feed right.

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    +1 on the "build the mags correctly from the factory"


    I've notice an increase in Grendel shooters at our local ranges (more than just me and my friend). I'm starting to see a Grendel every few range trips and when the range officer notices you have a Grendel he talks about how the "guys" have good things to say about them and that they shoot really nice. For a while there, I think I was the only person in three counties that had one ..... LOL.

    Now if the local ammo stores would just stock Grendel.

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    I'm spoiled to have 4 retail sources of Grendel ammo and brass within 15 minutes of me. The traction has steadily been building behind this cartridge based on the merits of the system, not marketing hype and lies. Real performance will always out-last false premises, so I'm predicting that at least 4 medium-sized AR makers will debut Grendels at SHOT next month, with untold numbers of smaller custom shops who are growing in number already. It will be interesting to see how many and when the larger makers jump on the wagon, but I almost prefer that they don't due to the corners that are cut by some of the big boys, especially when it comes to component selection, sub-standard assembly, and cost-reducing measures that affect longevity and performance for those interested in actually shooting the guns at more than occasional plinking volumes.

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    We have a pretty strong representation of Grendel shooters at my local guns shop, half a dozen or so. At the range though I haven't seen another Grendel, yet! I agree that Grendel is picking up traction because of it's performance in the AR-15 platform that's why I'm on the bandwagon. Unfortunately, history has shown that sometime great performance isn't enough, the 280 Remington is just one of many examples of a cartridges that didn't take off commercially. The Grendel draw back has been the confusion around the chamber design, there were others in the mix(LBC, LAOD, ect) that gave question. Maybe this happened because the development of the Grendel was more of a grassroots effort, from the shooting range and not one of the big boys looking for more revenue. Now with the SAAMI acceptance the confusion is eliminated, allowing the market to jump in with a known entity.
    LRRPF52 your right the flip side of greater acceptance of the Grendel will be the effects of Corporate America. The first thing they want to do is maximize profits and normally that means quality suffers. All in all I see good things for the Grendel, more availability and selection of rifles, barrels, ammo, parts and components but like anything else it's buyer be ware.

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    Lr how about sharing that brass ;-) ammo is limited to hornady or handloads around here

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    i hate to see the bigger corps one in perticular, i wont name them but it rhymes with freedom firearms group ....doh sorry ...cause or short cuts as mentioned. firearms are in the media enough .we dont need any help on people looking down on them

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    I think it will only help the Grendel's name recognition if a big manufacturer adds the caliber to their stable. And if more shooters are attracted to the caliber because an Acme Firearm Co. makes a budget model for John Q. Shooter, then there will be a percentage of those John Qs who will want to spend coin on higher-quality hardware, in turn driving market for said higher-quality hardware. I think we stand to benefit.

    That said, I'm just the "occasional plinking volume" type, so while the Acme Firearm Co. dive into the Grendel is of only theoretical interest to me, I sure can't wait for Wolf steel case!

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    I think the Freedom Group is really trying to maintain legitimacy and competitiveness by pushing the 6.8 SPC and .300 Blackout (rough copy of .300 Whisper). I'm not sure they're ready to over-diversify and compete against themselves with a new caliber.

    Reading all the hype about .300 Blackout being a great 300yd hunting cartridge just goes to show that there is a similar marketing campaign behind it to convince Joe Q. Shooter that he needs caliber X to hunt with in his AR15, when in all reality, a fast .223 with a decent bullet will cover any medium game within 200yds. Since the AR15 is becoming the dominant hunting platform moving forward, people will naturally be looking for more caliber options. Reading a snow job article on how great certain cartridges do will convince shooters that they need that one, and they will confirm the "greatness" of that caliber by shooting a deer at 50-75yds, then proclaim how well it drops 'em dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LRRPF52 View Post
    I think the Freedom Group is really trying to maintain legitimacy and competitiveness by pushing the 6.8 SPC and .300 Blackout (rough copy of .300 Whisper). I'm not sure they're ready to over-diversify and compete against themselves with a new caliber.

    Reading all the hype about .300 Blackout being a great 300yd hunting cartridge just goes to show that there is a similar marketing campaign behind it to convince Joe Q. Shooter that he needs caliber X to hunt with in his AR15, when in all reality, a fast .223 with a decent bullet will cover any medium game within 200yds. Since the AR15 is becoming the dominant hunting platform moving forward, people will naturally be looking for more caliber options. Reading a snow job article on how great certain cartridges do will convince shooters that they need that one, and they will confirm the "greatness" of that caliber by shooting a deer at 50-75yds, then proclaim how well it drops 'em dead.
    My F-in-L has killed 2 deer (220 lb. and 120 lb.) so far this year with a 60 grain Nosler Partition with his Oly Arms A2.

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