The Growing Horde

[jwilson1985]

i was referring to a company putting out a product that may be problematic and knowing about it do to short cuts. Not in the since that it wouldnt be nice to see a company produce a affordable product and get more knowledge on a said cartridge.

[LRRPF52]

My F-in-L has killed 2 deer (220 lb. and 120 lb.) so far this year with a 60 grain Nosler Partition with his Oly Arms A2.

I think that's the bullet these guys I ran into at the range said they use for hunting Elk, as long as they're within 200yds. They claimed they got more DRT's with it than any of their larger calibers, to include .25 WSSM's, Weatherby Magnums, etc.

I think they use 24" AR15's for all their hunting, in a bunch of different calibers. Of course, past 200yds, I wouldn't want to be shooting at any type of large game with a .223 Rem, as it loses a lot of energy by then.

This is where the Grendel comes in, since the SD of long, sleek projectiles retain so much energy at distance. For closer shots, it will get more penetration on thicker hides and have the ability to defeat bone with the solids or well-designed projectiles.

[hm2 clark]

I know nothing of killing Elk. I (My 15y/o daughter actually) used a .223 Mini 14 slinging Federal 60 gr partitions this year. Tore a 15 lb coon in half at 50 yards. 1 Head shot on a 80 lb hog .22 in, quater sized out drt.... 1 doe maybe 90 lbs at 75 yards side shot behind near sholder .22 exit wound out far sholder,did NOT knock her down hit 1 lung and did put a .22 hole through far sholder bone. and she ran, and she walked, and she slowly bled to death inside as we tracked her over 4-5 hours. The imediate cause of death was my kids .380 to the back of the deers head as she strugled to get up after so long a chase.....And again we tried 60gr Federal223 using 60 gr partitions on a bore hog. Went in through the plate and broke a rib and there was some bleeding in chest cavity but heart lungs great vessles remained intact. The liver did bleed profusly, bullet ended somewhere in the gut.. Again NO knock down . Again chase ensued, easier this time because of all the squeeling. Again a Walther .380 fmj double tap ended it. My exierence is that the .223 is best relegated to shooting poodles and the like, for DRT we"ll use Grendels or maybe .380 if head shots are necessary. Elk may be different than our Flordia game anmials.

[rsilvers]

Reading all the hype about .300 Blackout being a great 300yd hunting cartridge just goes to show that there is a similar marketing campaign behind it to convince Joe Q. Shooter that he needs caliber X to hunt with in his AR15, when in all reality, a fast .223 with a decent bullet will cover any medium game within 200yds.

It is not even legal to hunt with 223/5.56mm in so many areas.

[BjornF16]

It is not even level to hunt with 223/5.56mm in so many areas.

I think he meant "legal"...must be typing with "autocorrect" enabled. Many states require .24 caliber or larger.

[rsilvers]

Yes - iPhone changes words on me.

[jkingrph]

I have probably had mine 3 -3 1/2 years, that is to say my 3. Learned most of what I know on the old board before it crashed.

I thought I was an experienced reloader until I hit this cartridge and quickly found out that I had a huge learning curve, but folks over there helped a lot and now I crank out good functiong rounds with ease, even my fireforming loads run through the magazine and cycle the gun properly .

There had been such a scaricity of Grendel brass, so I purchased 2000 rounds of IMI 7.62x39 for reforming and have a lot to go through. It has all been resized, not primed but is otherwise ready to load and shoot. I did add some Lapua and Hornandy brass as it came available.

[Wood]

Well I guess I would be considered new to the (horde), hopefully I will be accepted.

[HANKA]

Good to have ya, Wood, glad you're here.

John

[Wood]

Good to have ya, Wood, glad you're here.

John

Thank you,

I am not new to shooting, reloading or building, just new to the Grendel.