Savage Grendel Options

[Frontier Gear]

Hey guys. I know this has been tried a few times in the past with varying levels of success. I've been doing some research though and it looks quite promising, so I wanted to share it here.

From what I can tell, we "should" be able to build a 6.5 Grendel out of a Savage 110 or the Savage Axis. The Axis would actually be easier.

Axis Build:

• Start with a short action Savage Axis. Both short and long action Savage Axis use the same action length and bolt spacing. However the trigger guard and mag wells are different. We want a short action mag well.
• Purchase a PPC bolt head for a Savage 10/110 either from Pacific Tool and Guage or from eBay. http://pacifictoolandgauge.com/savag...olt-heads.html
• Purchase a custom Savage "pre-fit" barrel in 6.5 Grendel for the Savage 10/110. You can find these from Shaw and others. To date, all Savage Axis receivers have been made with the "small shank" pattern that is used on the Savage 10/110 series of rifles.
• This is the part that shows promise. Purchase Savage part number 55221. This is a 7.62x39 specific mag for a Savage scout rifle. It holds 4 rounds, is flush fit and has feed lips shaped to for the 7.62x39. Hopefully these are like the Howa mags and will work equally well with the Grendel. Pop the bottom plate of the mag off and replace it with the bottom plate that came with the Axis mag. You now have a flush fit mag specifically for a 7.62x39 Savage Axis.

110 Build:

• A non-Axis build is more tricky due to the multiple configurations and changes over the years. It is identical to what I listed above except that you need to be careful what rifle you chose as a starting point.
• It needs to be a newer center feed, short action and detachable mag fed. I would also try to find one that is a top bolt release. A bottom bolt release "may" work as well but I don't know for sure.
• The current 10/110 series of rifles use two different styles of detachable mags. If it is a little higher end rifle, it should work with part number 55221 without any modifications. If it is a lower end rifle, it will use the Axis style of mag. In that case, you will need to swap the magazine bottom plates in order for part number 55221 to work in your rifle. There is also an older "side mag release" style that will not work. Stay away from those for this mod. (Those can be easily made into a blind mag configuration though)

So who here wants to be the first person to try an Axis build?

[A5BLASTER]

Hey guys. I know this has been tried a few times in the past with varying levels of success. I've been doing some research though and it looks quite promising, so I wanted to share it here.

From what I can tell, we "should" be able to build a 6.5 Grendel out of a Savage 110 or the Savage Axis. The Axis would actually be easier.

Axis Build:

• Start with a short action Savage Axis. Both short and long action Savage Axis use the same action length and bolt spacing. However the trigger guard and mag wells are different. We want a short action mag well.
• Purchase a PPC bolt head for a Savage 10/110 either from Pacific Tool and Guage or from eBay. http://pacifictoolandgauge.com/savag...olt-heads.html
• Purchase a custom Savage "pre-fit" barrel in 6.5 Grendel for the Savage 10/110. You can find these from Shaw and others. To date, all Savage Axis receivers have been made with the "small shank" pattern that is used on the Savage 10/110 series of rifles.
• This is the part that shows promise. Purchase Savage part number 55221. This is a 7.62x39 specific mag for a Savage scout rifle. It holds 4 rounds, is flush fit and has feed lips shaped to for the 7.62x39. Hopefully these are like the Howa mags and will work equally well with the Grendel. Pop the bottom plate of the mag off and replace it with the bottom plate that came with the Axis mag. You now have a flush fit mag specifically for a 7.62x39 Savage Axis.

110 Build:

• A non-Axis build is more tricky due to the multiple configurations and changes over the years. It is identical to what I listed above except that you need to be careful what rifle you chose as a starting point.
• It needs to be a newer center feed, short action and detachable mag fed. I would also try to find one that is a top bolt release. A bottom bolt release "may" work as well but I don't know for sure.
• The current 10/110 series of rifles use two different styles of detachable mags. If it is a little higher end rifle, it should work with part number 55221 without any modifications. If it is a lower end rifle, it will use the Axis style of mag. In that case, you will need to swap the magazine bottom plates in order for part number 55221 to work in your rifle. There is also an older "side mag release" style that will not work. Stay away from those for this mod. (Those can be easily made into a blind mag configuration though)

So who here wants to be the first person to try an Axis build?

Wow was you reading my mind last night lmao. I layed in bed till 2 am searching the net and trying to find intel.

From what I came up with the axis would be the easiest and cheapest route like you said.

Wish I had a axis rifle with that mag body to get a internal coal length measurement.

[Frontier Gear]

Well you could just spend the $45 and find out for the rest of us

[Frontier Gear]

Even though the Axis is a budget rifle, they have enough of the 110 bloodline in them and they are popular enough that the after market parts are out there for them. Here is a starting point if you chose to go that way.

https://timneytriggers.com/savage-trigger-replacement/

https://www.shawcustombarrels.com/barrels

http://gladesarmory.com/11/savage

http://v3precision.com/rifle-hardware/

https://www.sharpshootersupply.com/ - enhanced extractor for steel case ammo

[A5BLASTER]

Well you could just spend the $45 and find out for the rest of us

Lol your the ffl, you could build it up and figure out all the tweaks needed then do a auction for it.

Or start your own line of custom savage bolt action grendels, don't ffl guys get discounts.

I'm going to do some Google fuu the next few days and see what I can come up with might just have to build this thing.

[Frontier Gear]

I also read where one Savage owner was using the Axis 223 style of mags and getting them to work well in his 7.62x39 model 10 by bending the feed lips a bit. That would mean even more available mags if part number 55221 ever ran out. My guess is that all short action Axis mags have the same internal coal length measurement.

[A5BLASTER]

Think I'm bout to order a mag and run a few test on it.

[A5BLASTER]

Question. If I went with that ptg bolt head. What extractor would I use? Ptg doesn't offer an extractor with the bolt head.

Would I reuse the extractor from the original bolt?

[Frontier Gear]

Question. If I went with that ptg bolt head. What extractor would I use? Ptg doesn't offer an extractor with the bolt head.

Would I reuse the extractor from the original bolt?

This one

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Savage-Arms-PPC-Bolt-head-For-7-62x39-6-5-Grendel-ect/264134588809?hash=item3d7fa5f989:g:bX8AAOSwEKxcOqZ~:rk:1:pf:0

[A5BLASTER]

This one

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Savage-Arms...OqZ~:rk:1:pf:0

Thanks for the link sir. Does the savage bolt head not use a extractor like the ruger,Remington heads. Never owned a savage so just want to make sure I know all the parts needed.

[Frontier Gear]

Not sure what you mean. There is an extractor, but it's not the same as the Ruger. The ebay link has one with the extractor already in it.

[A5BLASTER]

Not sure what you mean. There is an extractor, but it's not the same as the Ruger. The ebay link has one with the extractor already in it.

Good enough for me lol

[grayfox]

yeah, all the little bolt-head parts are orderable, I got mine from brownells IIRC. Savage parts.
Order a few of each, the extractor, extr spring, ejector, ejector spring, and extractor ball. And ejector roll pin.
One or 2 will definitely go SPROINGGG! into the air during your assembly.
Been there got the Tee-shirt.

[A5BLASTER]

yeah, all the little bolt-head parts are orderable, I got mine from brownells IIRC. Savage parts.
Order a few of each, the extractor, extr spring, ejector, ejector spring, and extractor ball. And ejector roll pin.
One or 2 will definitely go SPROINGGG! into the air during your assembly.
Been there got the Tee-shirt.

you too I thought I was the only member of this elite club dangit lol

[FW Conch]

I built mine on a Stevens 200 action (same as a Savage 10). The action housing itself is the only thing that has not been replaced. Oh how peaceful life is when You decide You don't need a repeater/ magizine. Isn't that what AR's are for ? JM,JS. That hole in the bottom of My action is filled with a single shot follower. Simplifies things greatly. And the coal can be 4" if You like. If You don't fire it, just take the bolt & the cartridge out the back. Of course this won't be an issue with the Grendel.

I shot it for almost 2yrs with the 308 bolt head, and it worked fine. I have since bought a separate bolt and installed the ppc bolt head and ejector, I just swap out the whole thing. I have an ER Shaw barrel, blue laminate thumbhole stock, Rifle Basics Savage II trigger, it is mostly SS with a silver scope. It is a short action.

Rather the Stevens 200, the Savage 10, or the short action Axis will and has worked fine for many. I suggest looking for a used donor to not waste money on parts Your going to remove and not use anyway.

All these systems use the barrel nut, and chamberings can be swapped at will. This can become addictive. At last count I have 16 barrels. Enjoy the journey.