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    mikenyE9
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    Debating on new scope

    Trying to determine what scopei am gunna put on my new 6.5. Thinking about the Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x 56mm Rifle Scope, HVM.5, Black. anyone have this or have experience with it? Also, there are a few versions of this scope. Is this one the best for the grendel? Looking to spend around $2000 so if there is another option anyone recommends, please let me know. Thanks for all the help!!

    Sorry if this thread is redundant, but couldnt find one that addressed that reticle specifically.

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    Nightforce makes good scopes, and which model and reticle is best is somewhat personal preference. For hunting and informal target shooting, my favorite in their lineup is the F1 with MLR2.0 reticle and 0.1-mil clicks.

    http://www.midwayusa.com/product/433...s-matte-medium
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    LRRPF52
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    To me, the 5.5-22x is a lot of scope for a Grendel. What are your intended uses for the Grendel? That will drive everything.

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    mikenyE9
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    Both target shooting and hunting. Looking to do some deer hunting upstate NY and would like to do some long range varmant shooting (long range for me in NY is 400-500 yards) I have a Nightforce 3.5-15 in TMR on my 300 Weatherby and love it. Wanna keep it versital, but can't afford the US Optics, B&L PMII scopes right now.

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    S&B PMII i meant

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    I run the NXS 5.5-22x56 on my 28" Grendel, where it looks right at home.

    BUT....there is no way I'll lug that sucker around hunting!

    Nightforce lacks a scope in the 3-12 or 4-16 range with a 40-44mm objective that I think is optimal for hunting.

    The 2.5-10x32 is close, but I like a little more objective brightness for evening hunting.

    The Viper PST is a good option:

    http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...-1-moa-reticle

    or maybe this one?

    http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/...dc-moa-reticle
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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenyE9 View Post
    Trying to determine what scopei am gunna put on my new 6.5. Thinking about the Nightforce NXS 5.5-22x 56mm Rifle Scope, HVM.5, Black. anyone have this or have experience with it? Also, there are a few versions of this scope. Is this one the best for the grendel? Looking to spend around $2000 so if there is another option anyone recommends, please let me know. Thanks for all the help!!

    Sorry if this thread is redundant, but couldnt find one that addressed that reticle specifically.
    I'm not familiar with that particular reticle, is it one of their new options? I don't see it on their site.
    ”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt

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    LRRPF52
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    I have the 2.5-10x44 Mil/Mil Viper PST, and I really like it. I was just shooting with it out to 1000yds on my .260 Rem, but it is destined to end-up on my Grendel. The .260 Rem is getting a 4-16x or 5-15x. i just found an amazing deal from Midway, where they have partnered with Vortex to make a Midway exclusive Viper HS Tactical 5-15x44 Side Focus, with Zero-Stop, .1 Mil target knobs from the PST, but with no illumination, for under $500. It also has a Mil Dot wire reticle, instead of etched glass.

    For hunting and target, the Viper PST 2.5-10x44 and NightForce 2.5-10x32 would be great scopes for an 18-20" Grendel.

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    JohnOD
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    I'm with bwaites. A 2# scope would be a pig to pack around in the woods. Now deer hunting from a blind/stand or sniping chucks the 5.5 x 22 would be sweet! I was set on the 3.5-15x50 until I got my hands on one. I ended up with a NF 2.5-10x32 on my Grendel and don’t regret the choice at all since most of the hunting I do involves covering lots of ground. 400/500 yards isn’t all that far. I shoot at 3" Shoot & See targets at 500 and while I sure can’t see the bullet holes I can hold on the target just fine. That said more magnification would be nice at times.

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    mikenyE9
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    Hear a lot of you guys recommending the Vortex PST Scope. The price is nice, but is the clarity and construction really up to par. I have grown accostom to Nightforce quality. Was considering a US Optics 3.8-17 TPAL but a little pricey!! I'M Torn!!! guna have to really think about what direction i wanna go with this. Really appreciate the options and info!!

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    Prarrie dogs are the size of a soda pop can. I like Horus vision 4 X 16 for about $750. Pick the reticle you like for the use of the Grendel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikenyE9 View Post
    Hear a lot of you guys recommending the Vortex PST Scope. The price is nice, but is the clarity and construction really up to par. I have grown accostom to Nightforce quality. Was considering a US Optics 3.8-17 TPAL but a little pricey!! I'M Torn!!! guna have to really think about what direction i wanna go with this. Really appreciate the options and info!!
    LRRPF52 looks through and evaluates more scopes than just about anyone I know, and he is willing to recommend the Vortex scopes. I've compared them to my Nightforces, and in normal daylight I can't really see much difference, if any. I haven't tried them at dusk/dawn, so I don't know how they are in low light, but I suspect that the glass will hold up pretty well in comparison, especially at the price!
    ”You seek escape from pain. We seek the achievement of happiness. You exist for the sake of avoiding punishment. We exist for the sake of earning rewards. Threats will not make us function; fear is not our incentive. It is not death that we wish to avoid, but life that we wish to live.” - John Galt

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    Schwag173
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    I'm also with bwaites on scope choice. I would also add that there are a lot of very durable, capable scopes out there that won't empty your bank account. My $325 Leupold 1.5x5 VX-III has lived on my patrol-car-mounted 5.56 for the past 6 years without shifting zero. If you hunt the woods you might consider that low-power is where you need to be; nobody every swung on a whitetail with a 20x scope. Or if they did they never saw that deer again. I'm going to put a Leupold 2x8 compact atop my Grendel.

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    mikenyE9
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    After sleeping on it last night and taking in all of your suggestions, decided to give the Vortex PST a try. couldnt resist the price. Waiting on Precision Firearms to finish my upper and then gunna hit the range. I'll let you guys know what i think of it, but am more then sure i will be satisfied. Now if my upper would just get finished i would be a happy man!!! Thanks again!!

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    LRRPF52
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    One of the most important things to me is gear tracking, and positive click feel, as well as zero-stop. Of course we want good glass quality, and tube construction. Vortex has all of these, with a lifetime, fully-transferable, no questions asked warranty.

    They also have matching turrets & reticles, in MOA or MIL per your preference, as well as the choice between FFP and SFP, and side focus on the PST models.

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    Joseytheoutlawwales
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    Quote Originally Posted by LRRPF52 View Post
    One of the most important things to me is gear tracking, and positive click feel, as well as zero-stop. Of course we want good glass quality, and tube construction. Vortex has all of these, with a lifetime, fully-transferable, no questions asked warranty.

    They also have matching turrets & reticles, in MOA or MIL per your preference, as well as the choice between FFP and SFP, and side focus on the PST models.
    LRRPF52, not to hijack a thread, but regarding two scopes... the first you mentioned as the Midway USA version Vortex Viper. I was checking it out and it seems like a great quality optic. Have you perchance had the opportunity to actually use it?

    And secondly, what is your experience with Hawke Optics? And more specifically what do you think of the Sidewinder Tactical 30?

    Thanks in advance.

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    LRRPF52
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    Just looking at the Hawke Optics pages, their tactical line shows that they are still using Mil reticles with .25 MOA clicks, and I see no indication of a zero-stop feature.

    I can't over-emphasize how important it is to have a zero-stop feature if you are dialing elevation on your scope. It is a night and day game-changer for me, since you can get lost in the turrets, unless you have turrets with 1 turn = 12 Mils, like S&B, and they still have zero-stop. I have not put my hands on a Hawke SW Tactical 30.

    I'll be able to tell you how the Midway Vortex Viper HS pans out next week, when I get my hands on one. Since Vortex is making it, my confidence and expectations are pretty high for the price point.

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