New to Grendel and need barrel advice

[Mongrol]

Hello all,
I've been checking out the forum for a while and finally joined.
Also need barrel advice on my build.
This will be my 4th AR 15 platform (already have 2 in 5.56 and one in 5.7 x 28).
Will be dedicated precision medium to long range. Range use only unless TEOTWAWKI. I already assembled my lower (Mega billet/RRA 2 stage/PRS stock) and have a naked Mega side charger upper with YM carrier.
Barrels hard to find these days and long order wait times. Satern, LW, Custom orders from Krieger blanks, BHW?
Length: 20", 22",24"?
Chamber: Grendel, .264 LBC, 6.5 CSS.?
I'm prepared to spend for the right barrel and wait for it.
My head is spinning.

Please help with suggestions for ideal barrel, chamber, profile, length?
Again, anticipate range use only but would like to be able to carry it.

[txgunner00]

Howdy!

We have a get together planned at BOTW on 6-30-12. It would be a good chance for you to see some builds in action.

Check these out.

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showt...ghlight=texans

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/group.php?groupid=4

[Mongrol]

Thanks for the invite.
I've been meaning to check out that range and will try to be there of the 30th. It goes up to 100 yards I heard

I typically go to Lone Star in Lockhart but only 100 yards and Eagle Pass up to 300 yards. I've never shot past 300 yards. I shot just over 1 MOA with my DDM4V1 with a Vortex PST 1-4 at 300 yards with factory Hornady.

If I do the Grendel, really need to check out BOTW, Liberty Hill? Right?

Haven't fully commited to the Grendel yet but want as much range as possible on the AR 15 platform, so options limited. I do handload as well. I currently load my .223 with 75 gr Hornadys BTHPs and 5.7 subsonics for my AR 57 suppressed.
I would imagine loading the Grendel would be fairly straightforward.

I know my reply is all over the place. Just trying to attempt to justify pulling the trigger for a Grendel build as opposed to going 6.8 or even a longer barreled .223.

I will check out those links.

[Mongrol]

Correction BOTW 1000 yards.

[ricsmall]

i think if you look at some of the groups people have shot on here it will finalize your decision about the caliber. If you want top of the line cut rifling, there are several names, but satern, precision firearms, templar custom come to mind. You are looking at 550-600 for any of these. button rifled you are looking at 200-320 app. I personally went with templar on advice from some here, youll get plenty help im sure. good luck on build.

[RangerRick]

Hello all,
I've been checking out the forum for a while and finally joined.
Also need barrel advice on my build.
This will be my 4th AR 15 platform (already have 2 in 5.56 and one in 5.7 x 28).
Will be dedicated precision medium to long range. Range use only unless TEOTWAWKI. I already assembled my lower (Mega billet/RRA 2 stage/PRS stock) and have a naked Mega side charger upper with YM carrier.
Barrels hard to find these days and long order wait times. Satern, LW, Custom orders from Krieger blanks, BHW?
Length: 20", 22",24"?
Chamber: Grendel, .264 LBC, 6.5 CSS.?
I'm prepared to spend for the right barrel and wait for it.
My head is spinning.

Please help with suggestions for ideal barrel, chamber, profile, length?
Again, anticipate range use only but would like to be able to carry it.

For long range go with a 24. They get a little front heavy but with a heavier stock like the PRS, it balances better. With a bipod it won't matter.

Because wind performance dominates at long range I'd rather have a non-bull 24 than a shorter bull barrel because of the extra velocity. If you can stand a 24 bull, though, go for it.

I'd go with a Grendel chamber because it's a SAAMI spec now.

Call or email Bob at Templar Custom ((877) 878-2334, bobjr@templarconsultingllc.com). Last I heard he has barrels in stock (Bartlein?). He has 6.5 blanks and and turns them to whatever you want. He has some with the progressive rifling that people seem to like. His prces are about the same as high end off the shelf.

RR

[Cletis oaks]

Hey great choice on your upper and lower heavy wall billet with side charger thats exactly what im gun'n fer I ordered a 24" ss barrel from AA in early april and am still waiting paitently for delivery. The most of the stats I have found are for the 24" barrel especialy if you want to throw them bolts way out their. I will be getn the same upper and lower as you, not to withstand recoil because I have heard that their still isnt much, but because of barrel length n weight. Beleive me their are guys on this forum that can tell ya a hell of allot more than me but I think yer off to a great start. Im a newby to the grendel myself but I know Ive shot my best with an ar than any other rifle cant wait to get this thing built Ill hang on to my duck gun but probably sell everything else. An ar deer gun man Im in heaven!

[Mongrol]

Thanks for the advice on barrels and length. 24" seems like the GTG length to optimize velocity for the round and given the heavy stock and billet upper/lower, I might as well go all out and get a cut rifled tube too. Saving up some dough for the barrel order. Will likely get a 2" round/vented forearm. Last will be the optic. I've been very pleased with my Vortex Viper PST 1-4 mrad, so thinking about their 4-16 version also in mils. Not sure if I'll max the elevation at 1000 y and need a 5.8 mil (20 MOA) base. Need to review the drop charts again.
Looks like I will go Grendel after all.
I will post updates and pics of the final build

[bwaites]

You'll need a 20 MOA base.

[txgunner00]

If you intend to use the rifle in the field 20" is about as long as you want to go IMO. That's what I have and works good for me in the field as well as on the 1000 yd firing line. If you intend to primarily use it as a target or bench gun the the 24" will have an advantage in some added velocity.

As far as 6.5 vs. 6.8 goes: there is no question in my mind the 6.5 is superior all the way around in terms of ballistic performance, not just because I have one but because the numbers don't lie. I read a lot of statements claiming the 6.8 is "better" out to 300 yds and the 6.5 is "better" at long range but that makes no sense to me. For all practical purposes, the 6.5 at a minimum matches the 6.8 close in and whips the pants off it at long range. While there are some legitimate arguments against the 6.5, the pros far out weigh them.