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[am4966]

I sent Elftmann a message through their contact page requesting the weight of their 3-Gun module. I'll post back when/if they reply.

Looked thru all of my Elftman stuff no mention of total weight.

[Variable]

Got their answer (it was stuck in my Spam folder):



"Thank you for your interest in Elftmann triggers. The physical weight of the ELF 3 Gun curved is 2.2 oz., 64 grams
We have an ultralight in the works that shaves off another 7 grams, should be in production 6-8 weeks
Steve Watts
Elftmann Tactical"

That's 57 grams, which is right at 2.01 ounces. Now I'll have to wait for their ultralight.

[burkew23]

That's great news!

Just for comparison how much does your Geissele weigh?

[Variable]

That's great news!

Just for comparison how much does your Geissele weigh?

Well Crap!!! It's a good thing you asked me that.....

I took Geissele at their word when I asked them for their current weight (and if they'd given consideration to skeletonizing them) in an email a long time ago.

They said:

"Good Morning XXXXXXXXXXX,

Thank you for your interest in our products and contacting us. As of now we do not have any plans on doing this to our triggers. They currently weigh roughly 3.5oz.

Please let us know if we can be of further assistance."

So all along I ASSumed their SSA-E weighed 3.5 ounces. BZZZZZZTTTTTT!!!!!! Wrong!!!!

It only weighs 2.1 ounces (59 grams) as-is. That's without the trigger and hammer pins. I removed them to make it an apples to apples comparison.



I should have known better and automatically checked, but I never expected them to penalize themselves by an extra 40%!!!LOL

So apparently even an Ultralight Elf trigger module would only shave 1/10th of an ounce off of the Geissele SSA-E.

I might still get one anyway though, just to be different. I have other ARs that could definitely use the upgrade of this SSA-E.

[burkew23]

Wow! That's good to know. You should let Geissele know they can start marketing their trigger as a LW part

[Variable]

Received my SLR Ti Sentry 7 set screw version today.

Big surprise. It was about 20% heavier than we were initially led to believe. They said 23 grams, then they listed 24 grams on their site (still says 23 in the description). It actually weighs 28 grams. Oh well, I guess. I'm getting used to that by now. It's still the best option in a light weight adjustable that I know of.


28 grams with set screws and roll pin.




26.6-27 grams without the set screws and roll pin. The scale fluctuated slightly, so the weight was just barely under 27 grams.

[lamrith]

very cool. betting you remove the adjustable parts and it will come in @ 23.. You know how marketing folks like to play the game... the bare house is 23g so that is what they print!!

[Variable]

very cool. betting you remove the adjustable parts and it will come in @ 23.. You know how marketing folks like to play the game... the bare house is 23g so that is what they print!!

Which is what pisses me off. If I look up car specs, they typically include wheels, tires, an engine, and so forth in the vehicle weight. Bragging about how light a car was because you only weighed the frame would be pretty dang disingenuous.LOL

[lamrith]

Which is what pisses me off. If I look up car specs, they typically include wheels, tires, an engine, and so forth in the vehicle weight. Bragging about how light a car was because you only weighed the frame would be pretty dang disingenuous.LOL

It is unfortunately not uncommon in industries and for items where weight is the primary reason/criteria for something. Bike industry was that way back in 80/90's when Ti hit the market, everything was about what is the lightest you can possibly make something.

Darn sweet looking gasblock though and I am sure it is a good bit lighter than anything else on the market that is adjustable..?

[Variable]

AM4966 just clued me in that SLR has now released Ti Sentry 7's in clamp on. AFTER I badgered them incessantly and they said they weren't.....

http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_565/268996_.html

Maybe they'll let me swap my set screw version for a clamp-on...... Argh...

[burkew23]

Oh man that gif pretty much sums it up.

It's the best and worst part about all of the lightweight parts hitting the market right now. They just keep getting lighter and mo betta!

On the bright side, at least the Balios receiver set has held the title for the lightest receiver set ( that is 100% alum. and no gaping wholes ) for the last year.

But I'm sure something will come out tomorrow...

[Variable]

I'm just irked because-- I bitched incessantly about them making a clamp on, they pretty much blew me off, and then when I gave up they very quietly turned around and released what I'd been asking for. I was working multiple threads on the subject.

I asked if they'd swap but still have no answer. They've logged on at least four times since I asked too.

[burkew23]

Ya that its pretty weird that they released it like they did. But I'd try emailing Todd direct if you haven't already or calling cause they probably don't want to make a big public announcement on arf that everyone will try jumping on.

[Variable]

I PM'd him the night before last. No reply to date.

[Variable]

The squeaky wheel finally got some grease.

Alfredo from SLR just PM'ed me and said he'd swap it out.

Alfredo Rocks!!!!!