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  • Bwild97
    Warrior
    • Jan 2015
    • 217

    Good News from Faxon Firearms!

    I heard a rumor that Faxon Firearms will be producing 6.5 Grendel barrels. So l called Faxon to see if the rumors are true and they are.

    Faxon will be producing 6.5 Grendel barrels using a SAAMI spec reamer (I forgot to ask who's reamer) but was assured it was SAAMI spec. They will also be producing the ARAK 21 in 6.5 Grendel.

    I asked if they would use the proper Grendel bolt and the answer was yes, for AR barrels. For the ARAK 21 they will be using their 7.62x39 bolt, which looks a lot like the "ARP" super bolt.

    I'm glad to see more industry support for the 6.5 Grendel cartridge, I'm even happier to say that they are going to produce 6.5 Grendel before they produce the 6.8 SPC. Not that I have anything against the 6.8 it's just nice to see the 6.5 gaining support.
    Last edited by Bwild97; 02-27-2015, 07:29 PM.
  • SHORT-N-SASSY
    Warrior
    • Apr 2013
    • 629

    #2
    Well, that's news!

    It's been reported that the upcoming Faxon Firearms ARAK-31 (.308 Winchester-length action) will be available in 6.5mm Creedmoor (http://www.all4shooters.com/en/speci...ms-arak31-xrs/), (http://www.facebook.com/FaxonFirearm...44677105669392). And, that the newly redesigned ARAK-21 will sport left- and right-side ejection windows --- as does the new ARAK-31. All of which makes perfect sense, considering Faxon Firearms' plan to unveil a Bullpup lower receiver for its uppers, at some point in the future. Perhaps, something similar to this artist's sketch ---


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    • BluntForceTrauma
      Administrator
      • Feb 2011
      • 3897

      #3
      Very cool. Good scoop, Bwild! I've been watching Faxon with interest since their first YouTube demo.
      :: 6.5 GRENDEL Deer and Targets :: 6mmARC Targets and Varmints and Deer :: 22 ARC Varmints and Targets

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      • Variable
        Chieftain
        • Mar 2011
        • 2403

        #4
        Excellent news! I'm glad to hear it!
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        • SHORT-N-SASSY
          Warrior
          • Apr 2013
          • 629

          #5
          Originally posted by Variable View Post
          Excellent news! I'm glad to hear it!
          I agree!

          With Faxon Firearms in the running, we now have a three-horse race to the actual release of an other-than-AR-15 auto-loading 6.5mm Grendel rifle:

          K&M Arms M17S 6.5mm Grendel (http://kmarms.com) (Move cursor to "PRODUCTS"), first announced well over a year ago;

          Kel-Tec RDB 6.5mm Grendel (http://www.all4shooters.com/en/speci...tec-rdb-rifle/), announced at SHOT Show 2014.

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          • Evaris
            Unwashed
            • Feb 2015
            • 13

            #6
            Originally posted by SHORT-N-SASSY View Post
            Well, that's news!

            It's been reported that the upcoming Faxon Firearms ARAK-31 (.308 Winchester-length action) will be available in 6.5mm Creedmoor (http://www.all4shooters.com/en/speci...ms-arak31-xrs/), (http://www.facebook.com/FaxonFirearm...44677105669392). And, that the newly redesigned ARAK-21 will sport left- and right-side ejection windows --- as does the new ARAK-31. All of which makes perfect sense, considering Faxon Firearms' plan to unveil a Bullpup lower receiver for its uppers, at some point in the future. Perhaps, something similar to this artist's sketch ---


            "Artist sketch". Looks more like a FOSSCAD Hanuman 3D printable lower receiver render to me. Just saying.

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            • bwaites
              Moderator
              • Mar 2011
              • 4445

              #7
              Interesting, indeed!

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              • SHORT-N-SASSY
                Warrior
                • Apr 2013
                • 629

                #8
                Originally posted by Evaris View Post
                "Artist sketch". Looks more like a FOSSCAD Hanuman 3D printable lower receiver render to me. Just saying.
                In fact: An extrapolation (found on the Internet) of the image aired on the Faxon Firearms Facebook Page (http://www.facebook.com/FaxonFirearm...280346775735.0).

                And, from a Bullpup Forum Member, "I contacted Faxon and asked about their plans, and they admitted that they do have plans for a Bullpup lower." --- which configuration, meshes with their forward-thinking 180-degree-rotating ARAK-21/-31 Bolt design (http://www.facebook.com/FaxonFirearm...type=1&theater).

                Lastly, as Bwild97 pointed out, above, it's good to see more industry support for the 6.5mm Grendel, and for moving on from 20th Century's old favorites.
                Last edited by SHORT-N-SASSY; 02-28-2015, 10:13 PM.

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                • KentuckyBuddha
                  Warrior
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 972

                  #9
                  Where is the recoil spring/tube going to go on that bullpup? That is a thinker.

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                  • SHORT-N-SASSY
                    Warrior
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 629

                    #10
                    Originally posted by KentuckyBuddha View Post
                    Where is the recoil spring/tube going to go on that bullpup? That is a thinker.
                    KB,

                    The Faxon Firearms ARAK-21 (.223/5.56x45mm NATO-length) and ARAK-31 (.308/7.62x51mm NATO-length) are gas-piston designs, requiring no buffer spring/tube extensions. These designs auto-load, within the confines of the Upper Receiver-Barrel Assembly ---





                    Accordingly, either represents a good candidate for incorporating within a short, compact Bullpup rifle.

                    Picture this winning combo: A compact, highly-efficient Bullpup rifle configuration, chambered for the short, highly-efficient 6.5mm Grendel cartridge!

                    NOTE: I found the accompanying photo to the Faxon Firearms Facebook Page, dated October 15, 2014 (Link given in my Reply #8, above), somewhat confusing. I therefore elected to use a similar image of a Bullpup Lower, sans an upper, found on the Internet (See my Reply #2, above).

                    Last edited by SHORT-N-SASSY; 03-01-2015, 02:22 AM.

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                    • KentuckyBuddha
                      Warrior
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 972

                      #11
                      Of course! That makes sense. Thanks for the post!

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                      • SHORT-N-SASSY
                        Warrior
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 629

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SHORT-N-SASSY View Post
                        . . . And, that the newly redesigned ARAK-21 will sport left- and right-side ejection windows --- as does the new ARAK-31. All of which makes perfect sense, considering Faxon Firearms' plan to unveil a Bullpup lower receiver for its uppers, at some point in the future. . . .
                        And, given that we're well into the 21st Century, and in that the design incorporates left- and right-side ejection, I had hoped (read: expected) to see some variation on the theme of instant ambi-ejection, in the interests of left- /right-handed user-friendly and tactical-smart:

                        (http://youtu.be/YK4CcvW3I3M) (See 0:35 - 1:05);

                        (http://youtu.be/SLxMbsnx0c4) (See 0:30 - 1:15).

                        Instead, some disassembly of the weapon is required (http://www.ar15news.com/2015/02/24/n...-window-upper/).

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                        • SHORT-N-SASSY
                          Warrior
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 629

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Bwild97 View Post
                          I heard a rumor that Faxon Firearms will be producing 6.5 Grendel barrels. So l called Faxon to see if the rumors are true and they are.

                          Faxon will be producing 6.5 Grendel barrels using a SAAMI spec reamer (I forgot to ask who's reamer) but was assured it was SAAMI spec. They will also be producing the ARAK 21 in 6.5 Grendel.

                          I asked if they would use the proper Grendel bolt and the answer was yes, for AR barrels. For the ARAK 21 they will be using their 7.62x39 bolt, which looks a lot like the "ARP" super bolt.

                          I'm glad to see more industry support for the 6.5 Grendel cartridge, I'm even happier to say that they are going to produce 6.5 Grendel before they produce the 6.8 SPC. Not that I have anything against the 6.8 it's just nice to see the 6.5 gaining support.
                          To update:

                          I researched this newsy item, today, and came up with the following:

                          "Currently, 5.56, 300 BLK, and 7.62x39 are available and shipping. The next caliber will be 6.5 Grendel. . . ." --- (http://www.faxonfirearms.com/t/faqs) (Approx. halfway down the Page);

                          (http://www.guns.com/2015/02/24/faxon...extrous-araks/) --- Compare the Faxon Firearms ARAK-21 5.56mm Bolt with their 7.62x39mm Bolt (left), which will be used with the upcoming 6.5mm Grendel chambering ---



                          It's obvious Faxon Firearms has done their homework. And, though their ARAK-21 barrel assembly is not free-floating, there's a potential for sub-MOA accuracy ---



                          And, from a Bullpup Enthusiast's perspective, picture a 6.5mm Grendel ARAK-21, with a 20" barrel, mounted to a lightweight Bullpup lower, with an overall rifle length, under 30" !

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                          • sneaky one
                            Chieftain
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 3077

                            #14
                            Nice find guys!!!! I love bullpup rifles.

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                            • SHORT-N-SASSY
                              Warrior
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 629

                              #15
                              Originally posted by SHORT-N-SASSY View Post
                              . . .
                              And, from a Bullpup Enthusiast's perspective, picture a 6.5mm Grendel ARAK-21, with a 20" barrel, mounted to a lightweight Bullpup lower with an overall rifle length under 30"!
                              Replete with a high-tech electronically-actuated fire-control setup, for maximum accuracy potential (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?to...77648#msg77648).

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