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Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - LRRPF52 - 01-07-2014
By popular demand, I am hosting a 3-day Multi-Gun CCW, Carbine, Intermediate Range Rifle Training & Competition Event this September 18th-20th, to include both Day and Night live-fire in practical scenario-based settings.
Day 1
* CCW Pistol training in the morning
* Lunch
* Close Quarters Carbine Marksmanship Training Afternoon
* Dinner
* Night CCW Training in Cowboy Town!
![[Image: Media-Shooting-Range-IMG-6298-800x600.jpg]](http://www.castlecountry.com/media/Media-Shooting-Range-IMG-6298-800x600.jpg)
Day 2
* Designated Marksman, intermediate carbine and rifle training (great for hunters as well)
* Lunch
* Intermediate Marksmanship training over the canyon, use of terrain, positional shooting
* Dinner
* I'm considering starting the competition with some night stages.
![[Image: SDC12513_zpsc2501cc1.jpg]](http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/SDC12513_zpsc2501cc1.jpg)
Day 3
* Culmination exercise/competition involving fluid movement and use of trained skills
* Lunch & awards ceremony
Stages would involve defensive practical pistol scenarios, fun carbine stages including accuracy/speed drills, run-and-gun, clearing the Cowboy Action Village, intermediate range carbine, and long-range stages.
![[Image: northsprings-2.jpg]](http://raxafarian.com/nspring/northsprings-2.jpg)
The Range Complex is the North Springs Shooting Range just outside of Price, Utah. It is one of the most amazing shooting centers I have seen anywhere in the world. There are your standard 1000yd, 600yd, 100yd bermed-in flat ranges, all with steel already provided by the range.
Then you have automated target tracks in the pistol bays, a Law Enforcement Training Center with moving targets, a shoot house, a Cowboy Action village that is off the charts, and a canyon where you shoot off the edge from various points at steel.
![[Image: 2013-09-15105430_zps5322eb30.jpg]](http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/2013-09-15105430_zps5322eb30.jpg)
There is a wonderful pavilion complex in the middle of the Cowboy Action shooting village, complete with kitchen, picnic tables, and overhead cover from the elements, with a nice outdoor feel as well.
It is accessible year-round with paved road as well, and is only 15 minutes outside of Price. Looking for posts indicating serious interest. Let's keep the thread free from noise, and only those who would truly be willing and able to attend something like this once we have more specifics on dates.
From Los Angeles, it is 10 hrs 18 minutes /$379 in gas to the range.
From Seattle, it is 14 hrs 48 min. / $542
From Boise, it is 7 hours
From Las Vegas, it is 6hrs, 8 min.
From Phoenix, it is 9hrs 36 mins. / $329 gas
From Denver, it is 6 hrs 27 mins
From Helena, it is 9 hrs 43 mins
From Albaquerque, NM it is 8 hrs 21 mins
From Houston, it is 22 hrs 29 mins driving
This is the address to the facility if you want to calculate your trip, to get an idea of what travel considerations you will have if we do this:
5245 South 8000 West
Price, UT 84501
Round Count will be different if you are attending both the training and competition, vs. just the competition.
If attending the Training and Competition...
Pistol: 600rds ( I will try to get a night fire course approved as well.)
Carbine: 600rds
Precision Rifle/Carbine: 350rds
Just the Competition:
Pistol: 150rds
Carbine: 150rds
Precision Rifle/Carbine: 120rds
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - cory - 01-07-2014
I'm in. What do you think the round count would be for this?
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - explorecaves - 01-07-2014
I would love to attend but I doubt I would be able to attend in the next few years though.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - LRRPF52 - 01-07-2014
Updated tentative round count in the OP.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - montana - 01-07-2014
I'm in also. A course descriptions ,round count, schematics, volunteer RO's that will be needed, etc. I'm sure more details would come later but this sounds like just what Ive been looking for.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - LRRPF52 - 01-07-2014
Here's an example of one of the practical defensive pistol drills I like to use in my CCW courses. It's a combination of:
* Retention drill from concealment
* Box drill
Then working some basic natural weapon violence in with the punching pads. These are pretty slow, but focusing on accuracy so that the vital zone hits are exactly where they need to be, then build in scenario-based violence with live-fire. The goal is for you to have some practical skills with a handgun that will really come into play in conversational range encounters. A lot of work goes into developing a good draw, index, and anatomical zeroing of the body/firearm system when shooting from retention, since you are too close to use sights before you have a chance to create distance. After distance is established, then you can go into your two-handed grip of preference.
Just a little taste of one of the many things I do in a CCW course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9KaNuV7huM
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - bwaites - 01-07-2014
I'm in, and I'll help anyway possible.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - montana - 01-07-2014
LRRPF52 Wrote:Here's an example of one of the practical defensive pistol drills I like to use in my CCW courses. It's a combination of:
* Retention drill from concealment
* Box drill
Then working some basic natural weapon violence in with the punching pads. These are pretty slow, but focusing on accuracy so that the vital zone hits are exactly where they need to be, then build in scenario-based violence with live-fire. The goal is for you to have some practical skills with a handgun that will really come into play in conversational range encounters. A lot of work goes into developing a good draw, index, and anatomical zeroing of the body/firearm system when shooting from retention, since you are too close to use sights before you have a chance to create distance. After distance is established, then you can go into your two-handed grip of preference.
Just a little taste of one of the many things I do in a CCW course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9KaNuV7huM
This is my kind of training, I think your on to something
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - BjornF16 - 01-07-2014
1100 miles, 17 hours from Fort Worth.
Depending upon specifics, I'd like to attend.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - LRRPF52 - 01-07-2014
Here's a most excellent series of videos you can start studying if you are really into stepping outside your comfort zone and seeing what can actually be done with modern repeating arms:
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41wuFOTByp8[/video]
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hXV-Buvs1Y[/video]
[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMSlCyc-SQQ[/video]
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - cory - 01-07-2014
LRRPF52 Wrote:Here's an example of one of the practical defensive pistol drills I like to use in my CCW courses. It's a combination of:
* Retention drill from concealment
* Box drill
Then working some basic natural weapon violence in with the punching pads. These are pretty slow, but focusing on accuracy so that the vital zone hits are exactly where they need to be, then build in scenario-based violence with live-fire. The goal is for you to have some practical skills with a handgun that will really come into play in conversational range encounters. A lot of work goes into developing a good draw, index, and anatomical zeroing of the body/firearm system when shooting from retention, since you are too close to use sights before you have a chance to create distance. After distance is established, then you can go into your two-handed grip of preference.
Just a little taste of one of the many things I do in a CCW course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9KaNuV7huM
Do you have anything for someone who prefers to CC on their ankle? Due to my frame and lower back problems I don't like IWB.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - LRRPF52 - 01-07-2014
Have you tried ITW appendix? It's a different world from ITW hip, and you have to consider the likelihood that one of your most probable locations for being targeted is while seated in your vehicle.
I have worked out some ankle draw drills, to include while on the move, in the car, but I would say they require more bending than drawing from concealment ITW appendix.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - cory - 01-07-2014
ITW? I normally take it off my ankle in the car or carry a larger pistol in the car also.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - LRRPF52 - 01-07-2014
IWB=ITW. One of the lessons from the Miami shootout was that your blaster needs to be secure from vehicle impact. One of the agents lost his pistol and glasses in the vehicle ramming action, and was killed fumbling around unable to see well.
Holsters are best, followed by storage solutions in the car. Expedient technique is to have a pistol under a leg sandwiched between the seat cushion and your thigh.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - rickOshay - 01-07-2014
I'm In. Let me know if I can help in any way.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - GregP42 - 01-07-2014
1,596 mi, 23 hours 11 mins
But I couldn't come right now even if it was here.... Unemployment sucks rocks. So does being over 50 and looking for IT work.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - NugginFutz - 01-07-2014
Ok - the boss says I may go. So, approximately when, and what can we anticipate for range/training fees?
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - Y85 - 01-08-2014
Interested -- timing may be an issue. What's the nearest commercial airport?
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - LRRPF52 - 01-08-2014
Provo and Salt Lake are the nearest airports, with SLC having more commercial traffic. SLC is at least 2.5 hours drive to Price. From Provo airport, it's 1:45 to the range.
Multi-Gun Training/Fun Comp September 18-20 2014 - montana - 01-08-2014
Is there adequate lodging, restaurants, gas stations etc. ? It helps to plan ahead.