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(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Happy2Shoot - 12-08-2021

Please, for my sanity, please stop mentioning "Sako 85 XS action based Grendel". Lol

I have a Sako 85 Hunter in 308 Win.

It is the best rifle I have ever held in my hand. Good looking, smooth cycling, reliable, accurate.

I shot a 2 inch 5 shot group at 300 yards with it one day at the range.

185gr Berger Juggernaut
IMR 4064 40.7gr
Ogive 2.220
Lapua New Neck Mandrel 0.306
CCI BR-2
ave 2399 fps


I would love a Sako Grendel.

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Happy2Shoot - 12-08-2021

stinky coyote Wrote:i tried the cz and howa, prefer the ruger platform. i see this a lot of places, so i bought one.


the new cz600 will be one to watch once chambered in grendel what is this?

cz600?

A lot of info here.

https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/cz-600-bolt-action-rifle-review/

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - s3silver - 12-08-2021

Happy2Shoot Wrote:cz600?

A lot of info here.

https://www.outdoorlife.com/guns/cz-600-bolt-action-rifle-review/

CZ600 reminds me of a Savage switch barrel and floating bolt head without the barrel nut. Interesting design though incorporating the ar bolt-lock feature into a bolt gun.

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Stinky Coyote - 12-08-2021

Happy2Shoot Wrote:Please, for my sanity, please stop mentioning "Sako 85 XS action based Grendel". Lol

I have a Sako 85 Hunter in 308 Win.

It is the best rifle I have ever held in my hand. Good looking, smooth cycling, reliable, accurate.

I shot a 2 inch 5 shot group at 300 yards with it one day at the range.

185gr Berger Juggernaut
IMR 4064 40.7gr
Ogive 2.220
Lapua New Neck Mandrel 0.306
CCI BR-2
ave 2399 fps


I would love a Sako Grendel.

yup I would have been all over that also, their magazines are the best, the rest of the gun is pretty amazing also

I'm quietly keeping an eye peeled for older Ruger m77 7.62x39's...those stainless ones with the boat paddle stock, would be a pretty slick Little Grendel with just a barrel swap. Something to keep in mind or try and hunt down in your part of the world? That should stand it above the current choices and be the only stainless choice to boot, Sako is missing the boat imo by not chambering the XS stainless in Grendel, they are always super late to the party, look how long it took them to get 6.5 creedmoors chambered...sigh.

As it is my Ruger is sort of like an AR built for abuse and rough handling, I really like that it's somewhat rough around the edges and built for use and abuse etc. so it suits me and it's putting the game down really well.

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - VASCAR2 - 12-08-2021

Savage sell three different 6 MM ARC rifles which are easy to switch barrels. Same bolt head and 6.5 Grendel should feed.



https://centerfiresystems.com/product/savage-110-tactical-6mm-arc-18in-bbl-12rds-1


https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/savage-axis-ii-bolt-action-6mm-arc-22-barrel-31-rounds?a=2245473


https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/savage-110-switchback-6mm-arc-blackolive-drab-bolt-action-rifle-22in/p/1653420?msclkid=db7c78ad39e61e924c6d191d91543614&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Bing%20-%20DSA%20-%20Product%20Pages&utm_term=%2Fp%2F&utm_content=DSA%20-%20Product%20Pages

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Stinky Coyote - 12-08-2021

VASCAR2 Wrote:Savage sell three different 6 MM ARC rifles which are easy to switch barrels. Same bolt head and 6.5 Grendel should feed.



https://centerfiresystems.com/product/savage-110-tactical-6mm-arc-18in-bbl-12rds-1


https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/savage-axis-ii-bolt-action-6mm-arc-22-barrel-31-rounds?a=2245473


https://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/rifles/savage-110-switchback-6mm-arc-blackolive-drab-bolt-action-rifle-22in/p/1653420?msclkid=db7c78ad39e61e924c6d191d91543614&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Bing%20-%20DSA%20-%20Product%20Pages&utm_term=%2Fp%2F&utm_content=DSA%20-%20Product%20Pages

I haven't been able to stomach the savage rifles. The first one looks interesting if its actually AR length magazine, if just spacer aics then no. And up here in Canada if we rebarrel a rifle the gunsmiths have to do 18.5" so it's a no go, dumb laws I know, we can buy it with 16" but can't rebarrel to that. Good eye, and yes maybe the 6mm ARC will become popular enough with the typical manufacturers we like for usual centerfire short action and longer cartridges...c'mon Sako. Wink

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Happy2Shoot - 12-09-2021

I shot it today!

No accuracy to report just used a red dot at 50 yds.

Definitely needs a cheek riser.

Needs more polishing.

Feed ramp ridge edge is sharp and was scraping the brass near the base as I fed rounds causing it to jam a little.

Going to gently grind that ridge with a green rubber cone with a Dremel then Flitz it.

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Happy2Shoot - 12-09-2021

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(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - grayfox - 12-09-2021

The RAP's will definitely shoot!
I love mine in 6 creed, plus one in 243.

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Happy2Shoot - 12-10-2021

It still wouldn't feed.

Upon closer inspection I see Ruger built the action with a "valley of death".

The feed ramp is about a half inch from the chamber.

When feeding a round the mag follower or next round pushes the case head up, which rotates the nose down, and then T-bones the flat face of the chamber.

Great flipping design Ruger!

So I get it now. Cut two coils off the mag spring.

Seems to feed now.

Wonder if I could fill in the "valley of death" with epoxy?

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Rufjustis - 12-10-2021

I've got that M77 you're speaking about!! And as someone who had quite the collection of Ruger Paddle Stocks at one time, I shudder to think of changing the barrel on the 7.62X39. Its one of the more "rare" ones! But having said that, you'd have quite the Grendel! Lol
Stinky Coyote Wrote:yup I would have been all over that also, their magazines are the best, the rest of the gun is pretty amazing also

I'm quietly keeping an eye peeled for older Ruger m77 7.62x39's...those stainless ones with the boat paddle stock, would be a pretty slick Little Grendel with just a barrel swap. Something to keep in mind or try and hunt down in your part of the world? That should stand it above the current choices and be the only stainless choice to boot, Sako is missing the boat imo by not chambering the XS stainless in Grendel, they are always super late to the party, look how long it took them to get 6.5 creedmoors chambered...sigh.

As it is my Ruger is sort of like an AR built for abuse and rough handling, I really like that it's somewhat rough around the edges and built for use and abuse etc. so it suits me and it's putting the game down really well.


(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Glockpride - 12-10-2021

Anyone used or shot the Magpul stock on the RAH? I think I’d like to switch the Ruger stock for that one. Has riser and spacers, but seems much heavier. I don’t want to add a lot of weight.

ETA: nevermind, I don’t think that it would work due it being platformed for 7.62 and also not looking like it accepts the AR style mags. Correct me if I’m wrong or missing something please.

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Harpoon1 - 12-10-2021

Glockpride Wrote:Anyone used or shot the Magpul stock on the RAH? I think I’d like to switch the Ruger stock for that one. Has riser and spacers, but seems much heavier. I don’t want to add a lot of weight.

ETA: nevermind, I don’t think that it would work due it being platformed for 7.62 and also not looking like it accepts the AR style mags. Correct me if I’m wrong or missing something please.

I tried it and could never get it to feed worth a crap, even with AI mags and the Primal Rights Conversion kit. Plus it ended being too heavy for I wanted. Went back to the factory stock, cut two coils off the AR Mag, 4” inches off the barrel, now I’m happy. Runs great and has much better balance. IMO Cool

Here’s a link to a thread about the whole ordeal.

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?18756-Magpul-Hunter-American-stock

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Harpoon1 - 12-10-2021

Happy2Shoot Wrote:Wonder if I could fill in the "valley of death" with epoxy?

No! How is the bolt going to close and lock up if you fill it in with epoxy?

You could have a gunsmith radius the edge of the chamber entrance, to create a larger opening and more of a ramp the guide the projectile into the chamber. I had to do that with a Savage 223, feeds everything now.
I’d give the “new” Mag a chance, I haven’t had any lingering issues since I modified mine. Runs 90 TNT’ up to Nos 129 ABLR’s almost flawlessly now.

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Happy2Shoot - 12-10-2021

Yeah just throwing out ideas. Like I said seems to feed now.

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - MaineAR - 12-11-2021

Try using a the mag well from the x39 Ranch and using the mini-30 mags. I’ve only fired about 20rds through my Grendel Ranch, but no feed issues or needing to work the bolt hard. It’s a $30 part via Ruger, IIRC. I already had mini-30 mags, so it wasn’t too much of an investment for me. It works and the mags don’t hang down as far as the AR mags do so there is less snagging potential and it looks cleaner.

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Happy2Shoot - 12-16-2021

Harpoon1 Wrote:Couple of things.



Victor Company makes inexpensive screw on adjustable cheek rests that are rock solid and impervious to the weather. Not the most eye pleasing elegant solution but its cheap, lightweight and effective.

https://victorcompanyusa.com/titan-universal-cheekrest

Bought it, got it, screwed it, shot it, like it!

Would like to point out that in addition to making sure it is in the correct spot for your cheek make sure you can remove the bolt! :mad:

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Harpoon1 - 12-16-2021

Happy2Shoot Wrote:Bought it, got it, screwed it, shot it, like it!

Would like to point out that in addition to making sure it is in the correct spot for your cheek make sure you can remove the bolt! :mad:

I came close to doing that! There but for the grace of God……………..

I’ll bet you’ll remember it next time! Cool

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Happy2Shoot - 12-17-2021

Harpoon1 Wrote:I came close to doing that! There but for the grace of God……………..

I’ll bet you’ll remember it next time! Cool

Yeah.

I can take the action out of the stock I assume.

(Grendel) Horde Please Help Me; For I bought a Ruger! - Harpoon1 - 12-17-2021

Happy2Shoot Wrote:Yeah.

I can take the action out of the stock I assume.

Why not just move it back, to where the bolt clears it? It’s a cheap stock, who cares if you drill two more little holes in it? The rest should cover up them up anyway?