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Why bullpups? - stanc - 01-30-2016

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/12/10/new-zealand-defence-force-releases-sneak-peak-new-carbine/

[video=youtube;HdOE65hxvRQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdOE65hxvRQ[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdOE65hxvRQ

Note the bayonet lug at the 3 o'clock position on the barrel instead of the usual 6 o'clock mounting.
Also the combination flash suppressor/muzzle brake.

Why bullpups? - yoni - 03-16-2017

I really like my Tavor, it is a great little rifle. SBR sized without SBR issues.

The only thing I don't like is as of now it can't be converted to 6.5 Grendel.

Why bullpups? - n9nwo - 04-19-2017

VASCAR2 Wrote:I bought a Tavor in January and so far I really like it. I'm using the standard trigger pack and for CQB/off hand shooting it is fine. I really like the ergo's and the compact size. The Tavor is easily shot from the week side and it is easy to use one handed. The design makes it very easy to use your weak hand to open doors or similar task.

My Tavor has been totally reliable with factory ammo and reloads. The Tavor is not as easy to shoot off the bench as an AR-15 but it can be done. I put a bi-pod on my Tavor along with a 2.5 X 10 scope and shot some reloaded 69 grain SMK at 150 yards. Most groups were 1.5" - 2" but the bolt catch/release can be deactivated if using a rear sand bag.

I wish I had the option of carrying my Tavor on patrol as it is easy to use in and around vehicles. I'm currently using an EO Tech on mine and I feel it is capable out to 300 yards. The only gun I felt handled as well in CQB was a select fire MP5. Everybody gripes about the Tavor trigger but to me it feels like a Glock pistol with NY trigger. The trigger reset is the same as a Glock and I have no trouble getting quick hits with the factory trigger. The new trigger packs will only add to the Tavor popularity.

With modern militaries operating more out of vehicles and in urban areas I can see the rationale of the Bullpup. The AR-15 is a better rifle for precision shooting (DMR) but for LE I could see the Tavor capturing a share of the market. IWI had a press release stating they had sold 20,000 Tavor's in 11 or 12 months.

I really like the Tavor X95. Nearly a PWD in size in the SBR format. Very modular thus able to adapt to multiple missions. Longer barrel for DMR or IAR. SBR for CQB. Either keep the current configuration for 6.5x39 (6.5 Grendel) or modified to do 6.5x45.

Why bullpups? - chic - 02-23-2018

I know this is a little old, but why does no one consider electrically primed cartridges when they consider triggers? It's used on big stuff and worked on small stuff, but didn't become popular.

Why bullpups? - VASCAR2 - 02-23-2018

Anything electrical can fail and the military and LE are reluctant to stray away from what works and is cheap. Look at a WW I bolt action rifle like SMLE, 03 Springfield or Mauser, still very formidable weapon with good ammunition. Will an electrically primed ammunition and rifle be just as effective in 100 years? If 30 06 ammunition was stored properly since manufacture in 1939 I bet it would still be safe to shoot today. Just my opinion.

Since I posted about my Tavor I added a Geissele trigger pack. The Super Sabra trigger pack gives the Tavor as good a two stage trigger as my Geissele G2S trigger in my AR-15.

I'm not getting rid of my AR-15's or my Tavor as each have their own unique characteristics and advantages.

Why bullpups? - stanc - 02-24-2018

VASCAR2 Wrote:Anything electrical can fail and the military and LE are reluctant to stray away from what works and is cheap. Look at a WW I bolt action rifle like SMLE, 03 Springfield or Mauser, still very formidable weapon with good ammunition. Will an electrically primed ammunition and rifle be just as effective in 100 years? If 30 06 ammunition was stored properly since manufacture in 1939 I bet it would still be safe to shoot today.
I bet you're right. Cool

Here's a test of 1942 manufacture .30 M2 AP.

[video=youtube;hzYH8ap1TDo]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYH8ap1TDo[/video]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzYH8ap1TDo

Why bullpups? - Keef - 02-24-2018

I love my 7.62 x39 bullpup. If I could convert it to a 6.5g it would be perfect.

Why bullpups? - SHORT-N-SASSY - 02-24-2018

VASCAR2 Wrote:Anything electrical can fail and the military and LE are reluctant to stray away from what works and is cheap. . . .

But, for a sporting/target Bullpup, a 1.66 ounce trigger pull is sweet ecstasy ---
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I remember a day: July 11, 1979, the day the SKYLAB space station re-entered the Earth's atmosphere. That's the day all the components of my experimental Bullpup, with electronically-actuated trigger-to-sear arrangement, came together ---
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Not surprisingly, I named it, "SKY-PUP" ---
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