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List - Bolt Action Rifles that SHOULD chamber 6.5 Grendel - 6.5BR - 12-21-2020
No doubt it is efficient, I killed my furthest deer kill at 400 yds with a 6BR, 105 @ 2850 mv.......only went 25 yds after a double lung hit, golf ball size exit. The Grendel, if not mistaken about matches it at 400 yds in energy. I like the 120-123s in the Grendel and the 100 Barnes is a contender at ranges that ensure expansion. I see the G as a great AR and also handgun round, very efficient in say a TC. Some may recall, J.D. Jones killing a lot of game with a 6.5 JDJ using 120 BTs around 2500 mv, to around 250 yds, perhaps further, on game including African plains game. Yes, shot placement is always paramount and the light report and recoil makes for great shooting, as well as longer range sessions to learn one's gear, and gain confidence.
List - Bolt Action Rifles that SHOULD chamber 6.5 Grendel - Stinky Coyote - 12-21-2020
A friend has been using the fireformed 6-Dasher variant of the 6br for ages, lots of coyotes and deer die very instant deaths, he dropped a big body whitetail buck at 500-550 meters as if hit by lightning with 105 berger or a-max some time ago, thing shoots groups at 1000 that most can't do at 500, i believe he's running closer to 3000 fps, maybe now 2950 from a 26" tube? These little short fats with the high bc/sd heavy for cal options are incredibly efficient. I just see the 6.5 Grendel as more efficient especially in 2 areas, volume shooting, not sure you can wear the Grendel out, the 6-arc and br/dashers running higher velocities and pressures for the reloaders and the br/dashers for sure. And the 2nd is for hunting(including big game), most of which lands well under 500 yards and the added bullet weight/diameter while retaining more than enough impact velocity with sd and bullet construction for game intended...makes the Grendel so close to the Creedmoor in efficiency. The nod going to the Creedmoor as king as it's higher sd's cross over to 3rd class game (elk/moose) well into the range of acceptable where the Grendel sd's is just at the front edge of acceptable sd's for 3rd glass game. The faster 6mm's end up with less efficiency as they carry way more velocity than needed to much further than where hunting ranges are long done. So while the sd is there, the bullet weight/front diameter isn't, and they are going too fast to really take advantage of the rapid expansion properties of match bullets etc. in those normal hunting distances. This is where the Grendel just excels with any bullet choices, as it's slowed things down perfectly for eld-m etc. to do perfect work on game in normal hunting distances.
List - Bolt Action Rifles that SHOULD chamber 6.5 Grendel - Oso Polaris - 12-21-2020
From a hunting perspective, shot placement is everything and velocity kills. Midsize cartridge is over-kill for majority of hunting ranges and also size of game. Personally, from a smaller cartridge that is going a bit slower I like a heavier bullet with wider cross-section than 6mm, so the 6.5 Grendel, 6.8 SPC, or 300BO. Yes, 6mm just barely gets into the heavier bullet range with the 105 Berger - 115DTac, but these bullets are so aerodynamic that it isn't as effective for expansion. I am hunting pigs, and average size I shoot is 150lbs and out to +300 lbs, with most shots within 100 yards. I would love to have opportunity for +300 yard shots but short of a commercial corn/wheat field that just isn't where my pigs live... they like mud and river bottoms.
I have a .243 that I built for long range that was dumbed "God's F Hammer" by a few pros, and it has sat idle past couple of years with my son being born. I have intentionally focused on other rifle projects knowing that this rifle has another 750 rounds before the accuracy will most likely drop off and then it is time to rebarrel. For precision, I like the 6mm over the 6.5mm, and next time I would consider a 6mm Creedmoor over the 243 Win now that there is Lapua brass available. Barrel life is consideration for all of the intermediates sized 6mm cartridges (1500 rounds). With that in mind have been giving serious thought to a 6BR or 6Dasher, or even 6GT. Bartllein has thrown a wrench into my process with their new steel alloy that they announced earlier this year. If the barrel life is now 2x-3x then a 6mm now could have the barrel life comparable to current 6.5 Creedmoor of 2500 rounds or more.
I'm not a big competition shooter so my suppressor pretty much mitigates any recoil variance between a 6mm Creedmoor and 6BR/Dasher. I don't hunt Elk so no need for +600 yard shots. Shooting 105gr Berger the Creedmoor will deliver 3000fps and so will BR/Dasher. Less powder/longer barrel life vs Lapua brass .... Decisions.
List - Bolt Action Rifles that SHOULD chamber 6.5 Grendel - Stinky Coyote - 12-21-2020
great post, yes decisions, for the accuracy obsessed the dasher would likely whoop the creedmoor badly at the 1000 yard line, while mere mortals likely couldn't notice or even use the difference and have a factory ammo offering with more action/magazine choices
now i have to go read about this new steel allow you mentioned that bartllein is offering? that may make a Grendel bolt action impossible to wear out period even though it may have a near limitless barrel life with regular steels...hmmm
List - Bolt Action Rifles that SHOULD chamber 6.5 Grendel - Oso Polaris - 12-22-2020
Another solid contender of improved BR cartridges is the 6BRX, which has a greater case capacity then 6BR and retains the 30 degree shoulder and more body taper than the 6Dasher. The 6BRX should function more smoothly out of a magazine.
List - Bolt Action Rifles that SHOULD chamber 6.5 Grendel - Stinky Coyote - 12-22-2020
6.5 Grendel for the win, all that fuss for pretty select asks. Grendel does most with the least. ThatÂ’s we are here.
