kiwi shooter Wrote:a friend's 223 its stock is a custom home-made stock made from foam with a thin layer of fiberglass.
the hole rifle including 4 rounds and the Leopold m8 4x and suppressor is 2.8kg or 6.1lb
here in nz you do a lot of miles on foot on some horrible terrain, so a lightweight rifle is something that kiwis love this one is nuts light though.
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Stinky Coyote Wrote:nice to see another build, what's the suppressor weight or model? and barrel length? we can probably math out the bare rifle on that one pretty easy, his bottom end about 2.5 oz, looks like shortened factory mag, which starts life at 2.5 oz and 0.5 oz for the bottom plastic, rings 2 oz, scope 7.5 oz, and his stock would be interesting to know, was he able to get to 1 lb or less? the carbon stocky's 17-18 oz, mine was 18 oz, my rifle with those rings and leupold fx2 6x36 was 5 lb 6 oz or 2.4 kg, my bare rifle is 4 lb 10.5 oz or 2.1 kg, currently my rifle is wearing a holosun 507c green dot 2.5 oz on an extended 3 slot front rail 0.5 oz, a 1 oz shell holder and added a 1/2 oz single slot rail to underside tip of fore stock for light mount at 4 lb 15 oz or 2.2 kg and with 9 rounds of ammo in shell holder it's going down the trail at 2.39 kg, sure wish we could have suppressors here

kiwi shooter Wrote:2kg bare or 4.4lb

I'm not sure what everything else weighs but i know its total is 2.7kg not 2.8 oops

yep shortened factory mag to 4 rounds all you need in a hunting rifle

the suppressor is a hardy engineering made here in nz

rings are tally ultra lightweight

heres a link to his build
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.nz/f53/lightweight-223-project-84434/

Stinky Coyote Wrote:I may have to concede the crown of lightest Grendel bolt action in the world lol. And happy to do so, I posted this thread to see if anything else out there close. Thanks for bringing to my attention. I won’t do plastic or shorter barrel to compete so looks like he has the win. The stock is pretty cool, had to do what you could before the stocky’s carbon, which is the easy button now, that’s a ton of work for a 1.5-2.5 oz gain. Now if our rifles could get together and have a kid then we’d get down to 2.5 kg scoped with suppressor. He just needs to slab/flute that action/bolt and he’s got the crown as no one will match his stock weight.

kiwi shooter Wrote:his is a 223 not Grendel so your safe there.

his stock is superlight but also a bit fragile if you fell over while hunting you would probably break it
no issues for him is he is able to repair or make another one.
but for commercial makers it's not viable which is why they weigh more strength=heavy it's that simple

I think its 18" ill measure it if I get a chance I have it at the moment.
however, it's the featherweight barrel yours may be standard sporter Howa do three profiles well at least we can get 3 here. in theroy a 6.5 barrel should be lighter than a 223 barrel of the same profile as there's a bigger hole and less steel in a 6.5

Stinky Coyote Wrote:Right, Grendel, lol...I had a 20" lightweight and 22" standard at same time, I could not tell difference in profile but I didn't measure, the 20" looked identical to the 22" all the way out except 2" cut off the 22" to make the 'lightweight', and knowing as much about legacy/howa would we expect much else?, so close that when I chose to sell one I chose to sell the lightweight as I knew I'd be chopping one of them anyway, so may as well chop the 22" as the 20" was more desirable to sell, harder to find. And from recollection from weighing both barrelled actions there was 4 oz between them.