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first rifles - RMiller - 03-27-2018
These are my first builds.
Right now I only have the one complete lower.
One upper has an Anderson upper, Classic firearms 18" blued fluted barrel, cheap handguard, Anderson aluminum gas block.
The other upper has an unknown billet upper marked 6.5 Grendel from Antares Arms bought on gunbroker, cheap handguard, Anderson aluminum gas block, Shilen 18" stainless barrel.
Right now they share a charging handle and Toolcraft nickel boron BCG.
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first rifles - RMiller - 03-27-2018
It has an Anderson LPK and a CMC trigger.
I have another lower with an Anderson LPK that just needs a stock.
first rifles - bj139 - 03-27-2018
Looks like a great start. They will surely multiply.
first rifles - Timmy2Knives - 03-27-2018
Nice start. Get you a cheap carbine stock kit and throw that other lower together!
first rifles - RMiller - 03-31-2018
I have done a little more on them, starting with adding scopes.
I put a sling stud on the stainless barreled to mount a bipod to.
The other one I put in an M&P Sport II lower for pictures. I think this one will be used in this configuration mostly anyways.
I want one for walking and the other for when I don't mind the extra weight. Both of these rifles will be used for deer hunting.
I hope to have some hunting pics with these rifles this fall.
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first rifles - RMiller - 04-05-2018
First reloads more my Grendels.
123 SST
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first rifles - Bigs28 - 04-05-2018
Looks like your going to have fun
first rifles - Timmy2Knives - 04-05-2018
RMiller Wrote:I have done a little more on them, starting with adding scopes.
I put a sling stud on the stainless barreled to mount a bipod to.
The other one I put in an M&P Sport II lower for pictures. I think this one will be used in this configuration mostly anyways.
I want one for walking and the other for when I don't mind the extra weight. Both of these rifles will be used for deer hunting.
I hope to have some hunting pics with these rifles this fall.
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If you want one to be a walking rifle, you might should consider:
Lightweight M-Lok or Keymod handguard. Cheapies can be had from ebay for as little as $20. You can spend upwards of $300-500 if so inclined to run Gucci gear. (I would not personally, but more power to you that can.)
Lightweight bolt carrier. I run one from Right To Bear arms. Can be had for $60 on sale. No bolt, just the carrier. Of course, you can spend much more on other brands like JP if so inclined.
Light-er, fast acquisition, low power optic. Something 1-4X would work. A 1-6x, even better. Leopold VX-Freedom can be had around $200.
Light-er gas block. The one in the picture looks pretty large. If you elected for the lightweight carrier, an adjustable gas block would be very beneficial. There are multiple light weight models on the market for under $100.
Of course... barrel profile would make a very big impact. But at that point you are talking about substantial change and money outlay.
first rifles - RMiller - 04-06-2018
The gas blocks are Anderson aluminum.
I have a leupy 1-4 but I prefer more power in the scope so I can see. LOL.
The one rifle is noticeably lighter than the other already.
first rifles - RMiller - 04-06-2018
It is still hanging on to winter hard here. I want to go shooting!
first rifles - RMiller - 04-15-2018
I took them out today and shot some Wolf ammo through them.
I was able to get them on enough to smack the 100 yards steel in the wind standing offhand.
I put the new Grendel group buy bolt in the AIM Titanium Nitride bolt carrier. It worked every shot in the Classic firearms barrel. I fired about 20 rounds of the wolf ammo and 5 rounds of Hornady black through it.
My other upper with the Shilen barrel works every time with the Tool craft NiB BCG but when I tried first tried the Classic arms barrel and Tool craft bolt it would FTF almost every shot.
first rifles - RMiller - 04-15-2018
I took them out today and shot some Wolf ammo through them.
I was able to get them on enough to smack the 100 yards steel in the wind standing offhand.
I put the new Grendel group buy bolt in the AIM Titanium Nitride bolt carrier. It worked every shot in the Classic firearms barrel. I fired about 20 rounds of the wolf ammo and 5 rounds of Hornady black through it.
My other upper with the Shilen barrel works every time with the Tool craft NiB BCG but when I tried first tried the Classic arms barrel and Tool craft bolt it would FTF almost every shot.
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first rifles - RMiller - 04-22-2018
Did some shooting today.
These are the results with Hornady ELD and Wolf FMJ's.
Classic barrel with Hornady ELD
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Classic barrel with wolf fmj
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Shilen with ELD There are two groups in the picture. 3 shots up top and 5 below after adjusting scope
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Shilen with Wolf FMJ
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first rifles - RMiller - 04-29-2018
Shot some more today.
Classic barrel with ELD M 123 grain at 100 yards. 2.815"
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Classic barrel with Federal Fusion 120 grain at 100 yards 3.14"
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This is my S&W MP15 223 with 55 grain hornady handloads 100 yards from the same sandbags as I shot the Classic barrel from. Flip up magpul sights. 4.93" lol.
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first rifles - RMiller - 04-29-2018
Some other loads I have put through this rifle:
http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?16933-123-SST-CFE-223-and-PP-Varmint
first rifles - Popeye212 - 04-29-2018
bj139 Wrote:Looks like a great start. They will surely multiply.
Listen to this guy he speaks of truth there is wisdom in his words.....and probably experience...
first rifles - RMiller - 05-08-2018
Trying a different scope mount.
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first rifles - RMiller - 06-03-2018
The Classic barrel and 129 Hornady spire point and H335. 100 yards.
This is not a good combo for this rifle.
I have never seen a group this big from any rifle ever. The wolf group of 3" was immediately after though.
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first rifles - Unlucky7 - 06-15-2018
Looking to put glass on my new Grendel . Will the Nikon P 308 work or are the ballistics that much different . Its an A R style Grendel . I love that type of glass . have a P223 series on my AR that is great
first rifles - Kswhitetails - 06-15-2018
That'll work. Just be aware that the BDC isn't anything more than a guide, you'll want to test things to see if you're still "minute of game" at distance. BDCs aren't usable in any application until verified, and most of the time they're deceptive. If your ammo and rifle produce variables identical - or very close - to the ones used in creating a calibrated reticle, fine. But the odds of that happening when buying a BDC off the shelf are very nearly nil.
Grendel is fairly close to 308, especially when you zero at about an inch and a half high at 100. That should make you generally able to hit paper plates out to 400 or so with the bdc. You'd want to test that.