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flash hider - permanently attached to a bolt rifle barrel or not? - Sinclair - 06-09-2018
Does anyone know for certain whether or not a flash hider has to be permanently attached to a bolt gun barrel that is over 25.5 inches long? I am confused as to what has to be permanently attached to what length barrels and what does not. I live in the Midwest and have no plans to ever visit The Peoples Republic of California. No offense intended to you Californians, but I have cousins that live in your state and their stories raise the hair on the back of my neck! I hear Gasoline is over $6.00 a gallon! Got to raise money to give to those illegals.
Best Regards,
Sinclair
flash hider - permanently attached to a bolt rifle barrel or not? - zzrguy - 06-09-2018
My understanding is semi auto only.
flash hider - permanently attached to a bolt rifle barrel or not? - grayfox - 06-09-2018
Each state has its own regulations, so it would be hard for me to comment on one other than Virginia where I live, and I can't give any legal advice but only my understanding...
That said, the federal regs deal with, IIRC, any rifle barrel shorter than 16" needs to be registered under the NFA laws... which is why the 14.5" AR-15 barrels typically have welded/permanent pinned flash hiders to the ends, making them >= 16" and therefore not an issue for federal regs.
For a 25.5" bolt-action barrel (or any 25.5 rifle barrel for that matter), I believe it's long enough to not be a problem as far as federal Regs goes. You can usually google your state firearm regs and search for barrel lengths to see what state laws apply. I wouldn't think it's a problem but am not a lawyer so this is not legal advice...
Most of the "legality issues" that arise under the (mistaken but politically chosen) "assault rifle" laws have to do with accepting mags of too many rounds, having a vertical handgrip or having a flash hider on the muzzle... all of which to the uninitiated libs are scary and evil by definition, in their own right. And most of these features apply to semi-automatic rifles.
Heck in some states a ruger 10/22 with an archangel stock and 25-round mag (of 22LR!!!!!) is probably the very face of in-car-nate evilllll!!!!
flash hider - permanently attached to a bolt rifle barrel or not? - Lastrites - 06-10-2018
Sinclair you said "bolt gun barrel that is over 25.5 inches long" so the barrel is 25.5" or the OAL of the firearm is 25.5"
If the barrel is actually 25.5" you do not need to p&w per federal regs as mentioned by grayfox. If the 25.5" is OAL of the complete rifle then yes it would need to be p&w as it would be considered a sbr. Basically for a "rifle" if barrel is less then 16" and/or overall length is less than 26 then it needs either a stamp or a p&w to bring into compliance.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/921
I'm not a lawyer in real life, TINLA
flash hider - permanently attached to a bolt rifle barrel or not? - Sinclair - 06-11-2018
Thanks guys. I read the "Law" and I have a splitting headache. Talk about taking the High Road. The OAL of the rifle is about 44" and the barrel is about 25.5". "About" because the dimensions are in millimeters. So, I guess as long as I do not turn it into an assault rifle or machine gun I will be O.K. I was wondering, since a potato launcher has a bore of over 1/2 inch, does that make it a "destructive devise"?
flash hider - permanently attached to a bolt rifle barrel or not? - Lastrites - 06-11-2018
Sinclair Wrote:I was wondering, since a potato launcher has a bore of over 1/2 inch, does that make it a "destructive devise"?
Typically no as it isn't considered a weapon, now if your shooting flaming potato's then possibly.
flash hider - permanently attached to a bolt rifle barrel or not? - rwh - 06-12-2018
Potato cannons are grandfathered under the boys will be boys clause in the US constitution.
flash hider - permanently attached to a bolt rifle barrel or not? - bj139 - 06-12-2018
I believe the potato canon would be classifed as a smoothbore and would need to have an 18" barrel and OAL of 26".
12 gauge shotguns are over 50 cal already so no violation there of overbore weapons.
I think if you cut the potatoes into fries before firing it might be classified as a quick potato cooker.
flash hider - permanently attached to a bolt rifle barrel or not? - Sticks - 06-13-2018
Would't that make it a fragmentation mortar round?