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USAF Air Crew Survival Carbine - LRRPF52 - 06-29-2018

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New:

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https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/06/28/the-air-force-is-arming-pilots-with-a-longer-range-stand-off-rifle-to-use-if-theyre-ever-shot-down/

USAF Air Crew Survival Carbine - Frontier Gear - 06-29-2018

Fun, Although I still kind of like the carry handle.

USAF Air Crew Survival Carbine - stanc - 06-30-2018

LRRPF52 Wrote:New:

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https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/06/28/the-air-force-is-arming-pilots-with-a-longer-range-stand-off-rifle-to-use-if-theyre-ever-shot-down/
Interesting. I do like the basic concept, but think the execution was botched.
Using a 5.56 carbine will advertise a downed pilot's location for miles around.
Wouldn't it be much more sensible to make it an integrally suppressed 9mm?

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And if they are truly serious about enhancing pilot survivability, they really ought to issue camo flight suits.
The old sage green is fine in the cockpit, but far from the best choice for avoiding detection on the ground.

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USAF Air Crew Survival Carbine - JASmith - 06-30-2018

After spending a fair bit of time as a Forward Air Controller in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam era and seeing how quickly downed pilots were picked up, captured, or killed, I wondered what the purpose of a survival rifle really was.

Later, as I became more familiar with nuclear weapons, their effects and the MAD Doctrine, I understood the purpose better. There would be no airfields to return to, and effectively everyone - military and civilian - would have to get by as hunter-gatherers for at least a year.

In this environment, a 22 Hornet or 5.56 would be a very effective meat gatherer.

USAF Air Crew Survival Carbine - stanc - 06-30-2018

JASmith Wrote:After spending a fair bit of time as a Forward Air Controller in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam era and seeing how quickly downed pilots were picked up, captured, or killed, I wondered what the purpose of a survival rifle really was.

Later, as I became more familiar with nuclear weapons, their effects and the MAD Doctrine, I understood the purpose better. There would be no airfields to return to, and effectively everyone - military and civilian - would have to get by as hunter-gatherers for at least a year.

In this environment, a 22 Hornet or 5.56 would be a very effective meat gatherer.
M6 survival rifle. Over-under .22 Hornet/.410 shotgun. A more logical choice for a hunter-gatherer. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/23/original-m6-aircrew-survival-rifle/

Clearly, they're now more concerned with fighting off enemy infantry, than living off the land.

USAF Air Crew Survival Carbine - Sticks - 06-30-2018

stanc Wrote:M6 survival rifle. Over-under .22 Hornet/.410 shotgun. A more logical choice for a hunter-gatherer. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/09/23/original-m6-aircrew-survival-rifle/

Clearly, they're now more concerned with fighting off enemy infantry, than living off the land.

Part of the "Hunter/Gatherer" is also competing for food. RWOL. Who do you trust if you come across another body with less equip and provisions than yourself?

USAF Air Crew Survival Carbine - stanc - 06-30-2018

Sticks Wrote:Part of the "Hunter/Gatherer" is also competing for food. RWOL. Who do you trust if you come across another body with less equip and provisions than yourself?
:confused: I've no idea what "RWOL" means, let alone what you're trying to ask with that question.