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Boyds Pro Varmint vs B&C m40 - rookie7 - 01-25-2021
Good morning,
Plan to buy one of the 2 listed. I know the B&C has superior construction, but I like the feel, profile, and grip angle of the pro Varmint better.
Now that folks have had the B&C for over a year? Im looking for comparisons between the 2 if possible.
I would pillar and bed the Boyds. I use JO outdoors BDL metal. Any glaring issues with the B&C?
Howa mini 20 heavy
Thanks
Boyds Pro Varmint vs B&C m40 - grayfox - 01-25-2021
I've had both, 2 of each now on a few of my rifles, and the overall winner by far imo is the B&C. If you like the boyds then by all means go for it, this is a personal/fitment type of thing. For me the boyds pro varmint was still a bit too thick/fat in key spots, chiefly around the lower grip/front of the back part of the stock. It was hard to have a good purchase and I have big hands. The b&c on the other hand, feels great there, and points and tracks like a great stock should.
Down in that palm-grip area of the boyds pv I had to put some sticky tape on, so my hands wouldn't slip. And up on the fore end too.
No problems at all with the B&C.
I started with the pv but now that I've switched I doubt if I go there again... unless Bell doesn't have something for my next project. But even then I'll probably use the boyds prairie or the classic, not the pv.
btw the at-one is even chunkier... tried that one too.
Boyds Pro Varmint vs B&C m40 - A5BLASTER - 01-25-2021
I agree with gray fox.
I have had both and the b&c is a much better stock. I have it on my cz varmint grendel now.
Boyds Pro Varmint vs B&C m40 - rookie7 - 01-25-2021
I appreciate the input gents. B&C has gone up on their stock to $300. Not sure which way I will go yet.
Boyds Pro Varmint vs B&C m40 - 65Whelen - 01-26-2021
I just bought the Boyd Pro Varmint for my Tikka TX1 and I'm disappointed. I had planned to pillar and bed it to begin with but Boyd didn't leave me enough wood to get a good fit and finish on the trigger plate. When I'm done, it will protrude below the stock at least an 1\8". Big deal, maybe not but when I'm done the Boyd stock is not going to add any value to this rifle.
I also agree with the chunky feel in the grip area. I'll be taking a rasp to it to improve the trigger feel.
To be fair I ordered the Boyd because it's cheap and I expected to do the extra work to bring it up to par, if you're looking for a project buy the Boyd but looking at it now I'm thinking in the long run spend the extra money. Buy once cry once.
Boyds Pro Varmint vs B&C m40 - flatland1 - 01-26-2021
I bought a couple of B&C M40 stocks for my Mini rifles in 22 & 6.5 Grendel, then a Boyds ProVarmint for a Mini in 20 Tactical, after I decided I didn't care for the more open radius of the Boyds Prairie Classic stock's pistol grip. I went with the optional laser stippling on the ProVarmint grip & forend, as I'd had one of these stocks without it on a Mini in 6.5 Grendel, and didn't care for the slick surface of the laminated stock. And just last week, I drove down to Dodge City to pick up a B&C Sporter for a new Mini in 223. No question in my mind that both versions of the B&C stock come up & into position more naturally than the ProVarmint stock, but to be fair, I feel the ProVarmint was designed to be shot either off a front rest or bipod, while the B&C stocks are more practical for stalking/hunting IMHO (and are quite a bit lighter than the ProVarmint, which makes them easier to carry for long walks while hunting than the heavier laminated wood construction of the Boyds stock (the ProVarmint on my 20 Tactical also has the adjustable cheekpiece, which adds a few more ounces, but makes it more comfortable in prone or bench shooting than the same stock w/o this option). Since we don't have much in the way of prairie dog towns out here any more, my anticipated use for the 20 Tactical is for coyotes, which is one of the reasons I went with a 1-9tw bbl, to give good accuracy with bullets as heavy as the Berger 55gr LRBT. I've yet to take a coyote with that combination, so don't know whether the 55's small meplat hollow point will expand on coyotes. With hunting coyotes in mind, I'd probably be better off with another B&C #1002 sporter stock replacing the ProVarmint...but for now, think I'll leave the Boyds stock on this rifle until I find out the extra weight & bulk actually do get in the way of coming up and/or swinging on a running coyote.
Boyds Pro Varmint vs B&C m40 - Samurai41A - 01-26-2021
For the record, the heavy barrel Howa will free float in the B&C sporter stock as well. I've owned both, and prefer the slimmer profile of the Sporter.
Boyds Pro Varmint vs B&C m40 - rookie7 - 01-27-2021
Thank you for the replies. I do believe in the buy once, cry once philosophy.
It took me 5 years and 5 factory rifles that I thought I could get by with until I realized I was never going t be happy until I had my own custom.
Im a slow learner sometimes!
Boyds Pro Varmint vs B&C m40 - Oso Polaris - 01-27-2021
I have owned several Boyd stocks as well as the B&C stocks. In the beginning when I was just starting to figure things out, I would buy a Boyd to upgrade from cheap factory rubber stock. Eventually that was replaced with a B&C stock as a better/more stable platform for long distance or more durable for hunting. All of my CZ527's are now in B&C stocks and my Howa Mini is sporting one as well. I like the slightly larger size of the B&C on the mini's (still smaller than standard short action stock), and I especially appreciate the vertical style pistol grip on these petite rifles. With exception of one Ruger 10/22, all Boyd stocks have been sold or given away.
The next level in stocks/chassis is a big jump in price ($800-$1400), which makes the $300 for B&C look like a steal.
Boyds Pro Varmint vs B&C m40 - rookie7 - 01-30-2021
I have only owned one B & C stock which was for a Rem 700 - the varmint tactical model and it worked fine. I fitted a m5 dbm to it, and ran a 700 .223 out of it with MDT mags.
The Howa grendel is a whitetail hunting rifle for my daughter and I. She is 13, so I had to cut the factory buttstock to work for her AND to do so when she has on a coat, etc. for cold weather. The finished LOP with pad is 12.5". It's short, but I make it work for me when hunting b/c she and I sit together and I only carry one rifle.
The B & C m40 LOP is too long for her. I'm going to give them a call and see if they can do a finished LOP of 12.5". If not, I'll cut it myself.
The Sharps Bros heatseaker chassis for the mini looks really cool and for the money would be a great option. However, after having an accidental mag dump with DPI bottom metal and mag release during the 2019 season while shooting at a coyote I sold all my dbm and mags.
Running a HPK floorplate this season has been flawless without worry.
B&C M40 it is.
Boyds Pro Varmint vs B&C m40 - grayfox - 01-30-2021
Regardless of the BM material, I check the fit-up of each mag for what I've got. If a bit loose then a little duct tape strip on one side or the other usually firms up the fit so no unwanted dropouts. Plus with the newer 9or a cut-down) release tab I haven't had any problems with them...
'Course most of the time I'm carrying a different rifle, but the times I've had the howa outside I've not had problems with drops. Of course ymmv.
Right now I'm running the DIP, but I wouldn't hesitate to use the hpk or oregun guys if I needed it.