10-15-2011, 04:42 AM
"Did you read the results of the tests? The Ultimax was the most preferred weapon by the horde of entry-level Marines that participated in them. The HK had the worst hit probability of all, but was determined to be statistically insignificant. "
LRRPF52, not sure at what stage the above quote came in the test and evaluation. The IAR kept sub 2" groups after being shot for 25000 rds. I find it hard to believe almost any Marine, even one with a Pizza box could not make above average hits. As I understand it, there is talk that they may change the distances that tables are shot in the Corps to a longer distance because the IAR made it too easy due to it's accuracy. At least in the issued version. As far as functionality, You and I had a recent conversation about optics, in that conversation we discussed what optics that Tier One units were using. To the best of my knowledge, a lot of them are using HK 416's, which with a couple of modifications, is an IAR. I doubt they would bet their life on it if wasn't better than what they had an option to use.
As far as the belt vs mag issue, you are correct. A higher capacity would be more suited in this role, but I would bet that most guys would rather have something they can make hits with, that worked as close to 100% of the time, than something less. The surefire 60s may be a solution in the near future. They seem to run in the 416s, at least some of them. Agreed, that a bigger issue is who is going to carry his spares and not use them when the going gets hot. Not trying to pick a fight, just trying to offer an additional view.
LRRPF52, not sure at what stage the above quote came in the test and evaluation. The IAR kept sub 2" groups after being shot for 25000 rds. I find it hard to believe almost any Marine, even one with a Pizza box could not make above average hits. As I understand it, there is talk that they may change the distances that tables are shot in the Corps to a longer distance because the IAR made it too easy due to it's accuracy. At least in the issued version. As far as functionality, You and I had a recent conversation about optics, in that conversation we discussed what optics that Tier One units were using. To the best of my knowledge, a lot of them are using HK 416's, which with a couple of modifications, is an IAR. I doubt they would bet their life on it if wasn't better than what they had an option to use.
As far as the belt vs mag issue, you are correct. A higher capacity would be more suited in this role, but I would bet that most guys would rather have something they can make hits with, that worked as close to 100% of the time, than something less. The surefire 60s may be a solution in the near future. They seem to run in the 416s, at least some of them. Agreed, that a bigger issue is who is going to carry his spares and not use them when the going gets hot. Not trying to pick a fight, just trying to offer an additional view.