11-17-2011, 04:03 PM
Joe,
very, very, valid points, and yes the development of the 5.56 is maxed out, anyone will agree with that. After all this going back and forth I am now becoming more and more convinced that a weapon system needs to be catered around the Grendel itself. One that allows the cartridge more velocity a suitable twist rate for it, yet recoils on par or less than the current weapon and caliber, modular, at or less weight loaded 30rds vs 30rds. This should allow a carbine and a rifle setup with improvements in ergos across the board.
Many will argue for other calibers as well, stating door kickin in Iraq vs longer shots is the 'Stan scenerios, in my opinion the Grendel does show improvement than the current caliber. But it is also my opinion that bashing the current caliber is pointless and causes brass to go deaf. If on the other hand one only points out improvements in the capabilities of the proposed vs the current thus painting a constructive view and alternative it would be well received.
P.S. This is why I sound like a 5.56 Nazi -- bashing the current cartridge also leads to bashing of the proposed cartridge. And disagree with bashing the current cartridge, Heck I prefer the .45 over the 9mm. But I can't argue against it without some going deaf and thinking dude is off and brings up invalid points.
Also with the audience here on this forum a solution that allows the above mentioned capabiliites would not be a issue.
very, very, valid points, and yes the development of the 5.56 is maxed out, anyone will agree with that. After all this going back and forth I am now becoming more and more convinced that a weapon system needs to be catered around the Grendel itself. One that allows the cartridge more velocity a suitable twist rate for it, yet recoils on par or less than the current weapon and caliber, modular, at or less weight loaded 30rds vs 30rds. This should allow a carbine and a rifle setup with improvements in ergos across the board.
Many will argue for other calibers as well, stating door kickin in Iraq vs longer shots is the 'Stan scenerios, in my opinion the Grendel does show improvement than the current caliber. But it is also my opinion that bashing the current caliber is pointless and causes brass to go deaf. If on the other hand one only points out improvements in the capabilities of the proposed vs the current thus painting a constructive view and alternative it would be well received.
P.S. This is why I sound like a 5.56 Nazi -- bashing the current cartridge also leads to bashing of the proposed cartridge. And disagree with bashing the current cartridge, Heck I prefer the .45 over the 9mm. But I can't argue against it without some going deaf and thinking dude is off and brings up invalid points.
Also with the audience here on this forum a solution that allows the above mentioned capabiliites would not be a issue.