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Feds admit in court that AR-15's are not weapons of war
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stanc Wrote:1. It does not say all semi-autos. (Some semi-autos were developed solely for military use; some were designed solely for sporting use; and some are variants of military rifles modified to semi-auto.)

I quoteTonguearts and components specifically designed for conversion of a (semi-automatic firearm) to a fully automatic firearm. It did not specify the difference between semi auto intent, use, purpose, sex, gender identity, religion, military service, or political affiliation, just semi auto firearm.

stanc;[b Wrote:2.[/b] It defines the conversion parts and components as "military equipment," not the rifles.

You left out this partConfusedpecifically designed for conversion of a (semi-automatic firearm) to a fully automatic firearm. Key word (SEMI AUTO FIREARM)!


stancLike Gottlieb, I said "rifles [b Wrote:like[/b] the AR15," which includes the AK74 adopted by Russia, the Stg77 adopted by Austria, the Stg90 adopted by Switzerland, etc, etc.
OK, then the semi auto Rem model 8 was first sold to civilians on October 16, 1900, John Browning was granted U.S. Patent 659,786 for the semi automatic rifle for the Remington Model 8, sold to civilians and then to military and police in limited numbers. Until the NFA tax law was adopted, there was no legal separation, class or distinction between civilian or military firearms. Marketing, "not law" for the potential customer was the only distinction.

stancAs for the AR15 specifically, it was adopted by the US Air Force in January, 1962. ([url Wrote:http://looserounds.com/556timeline/556dw-1962/[/url])
In July 1960, General Curtis LeMay was impressed by a demonstration of the ArmaLite AR-15. In the summer of 1961, General LeMay was promoted to U.S. Air Force, Chief of Staff, and requested 80,000 AR-15s. However, General Maxwell D. Taylor, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, advised President John F. Kennedy that having two different calibers within the military system at the same time would be problematic and the request was rejected.

(In January 1963, Secretary McNamara received reports that M14 production was insufficient to meet the needs of the armed forces and ordered a halt to M14 production. At the time, the AR-15 was the only rifle that could fulfill a requirement of a "universal" infantry weapon for issue to all services. McNamara ordered its adoption)

In November 1963, McNamara approved the U.S. Army's order of 85,000 XM16E1s and to appease General LeMay, the Air Force was granted an order for another 19,000 M16s. In March 1964, the M16 rifle went into production and the Army accepted delivery of the first batch of 2,129 rifles later that year, and an additional 57,240 rifles the following year.


stancHmm. Since they are "functionally the same weapons," doesn't that mean they essentially [b Wrote:are[/b] "weapons of war"? :eek:
Every firearm designed has it's roots from weapons of war.
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Feds admit in court that AR-15's are not weapons of war - by montana - 07-25-2018, 06:07 AM

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