grayfox Wrote:I don't think Stan is willing to acknowledge the existence nor the authority of God (to grant anything), so this may be a point in which there will need to be willingness to agree to disagree.
To believe or disbelieve in a higher force does not change the fact that a "belief" can be very powerful. A belief in government or God is the same from an academic stand point. It only works, "if the people who follow it" have belief in it. The people sitting in a government building giving dictates is no different than the people giving dictates from a church. It only works if the people believe in the dictates being given.

