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The Founders' intent [in writing the Constitution] was to create a government...

Yeah, that's basically what I said.

I take it you don't believe in Freewill.

Null statement/question. I don't operate on belief.

If you can't extend enough goodwill to perform a simple intellectual exercise, then any attempt at a conversation with you is a waste of time.

Meh. Attempting to have a discussion based on faulty logic and incorrect facts is a waste of time. However, I'll play.

Okay, assume "rights" actually exist and are unalienable. A cop mistakes the cellphone in your hand for a gun, and shoots you dead. Do you still have an unalienable right to life?

You've never actually read Washington's or Jefferson's thoughts on slavery have you? As a young idealist politician Jefferson actually fought against slavery. Washington wanted to move from a slave labor to a paid labor business model. Why didn't they just free their slaves and set an example? The colonial laws on inheritance made this very complicated and almost impossible.

Excuses, excuses. In any case, Washington and Jefferson were not the only Founders. There were many more.

The government's Rights come from the Individual, not the other way around. Hence the Constitution's Preamble.

Not relevant. The discussion is about individual rights, which are defined by the government.

What the hell does that have to do with anything. Either the ideas are correct or they're not. Who it comes from is irrelevant.

Where "rights" come from has everything to do with it. If they don't come from an omnipotent God, and they don't exist in Nature, then they're inventions of the human mind, and not unalienable.

They're wrong, but not completely. In order to understand this we have to understand a couple of things. What is government? It's the people. We, Americans, are the U.S. government. Therefore everything the government owns, we the American taxpayers own. And hence our first Right of Life (Property) extends to US property.

That's complete nonsense.

First, "the people" are not the government. The Founders did not trust the people to govern themselves, so they established a representative form of government, not a democracy.

Second, US Government property does not belong to us, a fact that will be quite profoundly -- and rather unpleasantly -- demonstrated to you if you ignore signs like that below.