10-02-2018, 12:47 PM
stanc Wrote:Huh? What does any of that have to do with age requirements for the unorganized militia?
Okay, I'll try to make it simpler. The point is that when folks like George Mason said "the whole people are the militia," they meant the white male population, not all people.
Doesn't matter. With rare exception, women did not serve in the militia.
I don't know what truth you think I "neglected." I certainly did not dispute that the militia can be called on. Are you disagreeing that the old militia system was superseded by the National Guard?
And as with the National Guard, SDF's issue any required weapons to their members.
The reason for the 2A was to ensure that members of organized militias could "keep and bear" the arms they needed for militia service. The current iteration of the organized militia -- the National Guard -- issues all required weapons. And the National Guard has the same types of weapons as the US government, so the government is not "the only armed population."
It's not a belief. It's a fact. The National Guard issues all required weapons; there is no need for members to provide their own arms.
King George died long before the National Guard was born. LOL.
Stan, since you love to dodge direct questions I will let this debate drop. This was not a debate on land owning white men, minority's and women's ability to vote or if the national guard does the same job as the earlier militia. It is about citizens gun rights and the reason for it. The courts have ruled the right to bear arms has nothing to do with the service in the militia as bj139 has stated. The courts in the past have been mixed at best when describing those rights as I have stated a "conundrum" until recently. Where gun rights will go depends on who is elected, not by my opinion or yours.https://www.thoughtco.com/second-amendme...ses-721399
I could debate my belief of the original intent of our gun rights and you yours but it is an act of futility and pointless. Elections matter and the courts will rule. The End!