03-15-2019, 05:11 PM
Lemonaid Wrote:I lean toward the bench rest competition to see what the rifle can do. Then the Performance challenge to see what I can do after I've wrung out as much accuracy can get at the bench.
My post was to try to get a realistic idea as to what a AR Grendel shooters have done with the best barrel, accessories and loads as a benchmark to strive for.
The Grendel challenge would just be a fun way to measure progress at shooting longer and longer distances. Something like a 2" orange target sticker with a smiley face, 3 out 5 rounds (5 rounds total, no spotters) in the orange at 100, 200, 300, 500, 600 Yards. Could have separate bench vs. prone achievements?
I'm hoping someone will have a great fun idea that will catch on as a sort of standard accuracy test.
LR55 what is your best accuracy results so far? Thanks in advance!
The thing about the Milk Judge challenge I'm not satisfied with is it doesn't let you measure/record group size or how close your misses were. Hard to determine if you were just lucky.
Best Accuracy Results with a Grendel gas gun? When I hit what I believe is 3/4 minute mean at 200 yards, that's the load I stay with and my load testing ends. That is with a Grendel gas operated rifle, not something like one of my 6 BR prone rifles.
When I had to plan and conduct training events to evaluate marksmanship and tactical skills, my own standards were that the target must, as a minimum, equal the accuracy performance of the rifle and ammo combination we were using. Given civilians with a mixture of rifles and cartridges, I would not allow a target under two minutes. Your notion of two inches at 600 yards means if someone hit it, it would be random chance and thus not a evaluation of equipment and shooter.
If someone wants to see how well they can deal with the environment and shoot at the same time, they need to do some PRS or High Power competitions. Even Three Gun would be a decent evaluation.
What Klem is writing is the most realistic means of defining standards.
You see, most guys who compete find a load that gives us the competitive performance we think can win in our sport. Once that is found, we shoot it and probably won't do load development again until the performance drops or we get a new barrel.
LR55