09-06-2019, 05:32 PM
Double Naught Spy Wrote:You tell me.No, you tell me. You are the one who is labelling people, "right wing" for what ever definition that meets your criteria. Do you consider every supporter of the 2ndA as a right winger??
Double Naught Spy Wrote:How many do you see wanting to consider anything other than single purpose (kill people) public mass shootings?
Most right wingers will not consider using data such as compiled here... https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/repor...s-shooting
We are up to 300 for 2019, had 337 in 2018, 346 in 2017.
The nice thing about this database is that it is referenced and you can research individual shootings fairly easily.
An interesting part of the problem is that there is no formal definition that anyone wants to agree upon. Every time somebody does a major study, they tend to define it slightly differently than previous studies.
For example, the leading right wing expert, Lott, went with this definition...
https://www.politifact.com/florida/state...ree-zones/
So for his purposes, it had to be a mass murder before it could be a mass shooting and the shooting could not have occurred during the commission of some other crime, so again, if 50 people were shot at a public sporting event, but only 3 died, he would not include it as a mass shooting.
How a group determines a mass shooting is usually determined by the goal of such group. Left wing groups, "or gun haters" never mention the crimes prevented by privately owned firearms or mass shootings that have been prevented by privately owned firearms. They also like to ignore the deaths in cities such as Chicago, since it doesn't really help their narrative for strong gun control. This is called politics by the way. So what is your point??? Do you agree with the antis that we need to restrict guns or ban them outright?? I'm getting mixed signals from you. I read a lot of complaints from you about pro gun rebuttals and statistics, but no opinionated solutions to these problems??