12-01-2020, 03:03 PM
LucasJ Wrote:We can thank trump for killing 265,000 Americans with the trump virus. Is it still a hoax? trump has spent 4 years lying and dreaming up conspiracy theories. How anyone can accept his behavior or think he has done any good for our country is beyond my comprehension.
Trump was a dunce, whose defiance, undoubtedly enabled a lot of morons. However... Let's get real, son. The power to deal with the response was ALWAYS with the states. Why do we constantly scream to the federal government, to handle a thing that is immediately within our own power?
The truth is, the US isn't even in the top ten for COVID related deaths, per capita. NOT EVEN IN THE TOP TEN. Or at least, so says John Hopkins, who arguably have some of the best stats on record.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Was "The Donald's" behavior and public conduct reprehensible? Sure. But let's not confuse the issues.
Covid is not, was not, a hoax. However, since it was so highly politicized, and came to us first through the mouths of politicians, not doctors - we have to live with the fallout. Is there proof that it wouldn't have claimed the same numbers? Nope. Even in the most leftist states, where adherence to recommendations are as fanatical as the defiance in the more right leaning areas, there is not clear advantage in case count. I had residences in both Washington State and Florida. Washington - fanatical. Florida - defiant. Numbers advantage - Florida. That's a huge WTF for me.
The idea of just having a conversation to bash Trump is ludicrous to me. We all know that the vast majority of America votes on party line, and they'll craft whatever narrative they have to, to justify their personal investment. We all know that it gets even worse, when we isolate demographics. So what's the point? No minds are changed. We all know what the issues with The Donald are/were. You're just being obtuse, at this point.