12-07-2020, 01:14 PM
Klem Wrote:Russia has started mass vaccinations in Moscow using the Sputnik V vaccine. Putin ordered it three days ago.
It's not that they came up with a vaccine first, it's more that they have abbreviated the safety testing that other countries insist on doing. It's a risk they deem acceptable and a reflection of the sort of society they are. If people come down with strange side effects it will be a disaster. If not, they will have saved a few lives by going early.
Greyfox was comparing Trump's Covid credentials with the rest of the world and getting nationalistic at the same time. I look at Trump's acts and omissions and the state of play currently in the US and look at what our leaders have done here in Australia and New Zealand - the difference is stark. Our Prime Minister, similarly has to deal with State Premiers from different political parties and they don't always see eye to eye, but they get along and have a modicum of respect for each other. It has worked so far. For it to work there must also be a common sense of community discipline and subordination for the common good. Again, we are lucky in that respect. The virus keeps coming in but is luckily being caught at the border. Financially, we are hurting like everyone else, but at least we don't have the virus as well.
By all means love Trump to death, he's your President.
Klem.
You can not compare Australia with the USA because there is no comparison. Not in political structure, social structure, ethnic and religious diversity, and economics. Not in geography and particularly borders. Not in motivation, interests, or much of anything else.
If I were a member of a shooting and firearms web site based in Australia, I would never tell their members that their leadership is corrupt or incompetent. And most certainly would never compare their political system and culture to ours and end up saying ours is better because we are X, Y or Z .
Enough said. If you want to immigrate here and become a citizen, go for it and once you are a citizen you can hammer our President and system as much as you want.
If not, let me ask that you refrain from making further comments about our President.
LR55