1000yd Results with Lilja 17.6" Barrel

[LRRPF52]

Just got back last night from the Course we ran this weekend.

I wanted to see how my 31.2gr CFE load under 123gr AMAX did from this rifle at 1000yds on steel. This is a public range, so there are other people's hits on the steel as well, but the one in the middle of the forehead is mine. There were some people to the left of us, including this lady who shot the face as well using a long-barreled 6.5 Creedmoor bolt gun. I have a bunch of hits the center as well.







On the large gong, there are several hits from my Grendel and the attendee who I was spotting for. He was using a 20" SR25 with 178gr Hornady AMAX.

Shooting 18" plates at 600yds and 700yds was boring. I'll get some video up of me knocking down the 600yd plate with the Grendel. This gun is crazy accurate.

[LRRPF52]

I knocked down the 600yd steel plate they had. Whoops....

[video=youtube;i_ajiB0kkyc]http://youtu.be/i_ajiB0kkyc?t=12s[/video]

[CastorTroy]

nice work. im looking forward to yamaraja's response in the other thread

[LRRPF52]

nice work. im looking forward to yamaraja's response in the other thread

Ask and ye shall receive. Seek, and sub-MOA impact will be granted unto you. Knock, and targets shall fall.

[kmon]

Looks like another fun day at the range, good shooting

[LRRPF52]

[video=youtube;vEzjfye1Jyw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEzjfye1Jyw&feature=youtu.be[/video]

[danm]

Nice stuff man! I hear you about the boring part at intermediate ranges. My local range only has steel to 300... yawn... but in the winter months the road behind the range is closed so you can shoot over the road at some ranged out rocks on the hillside. Ranged one at 729 yards and dialed 6.8 mils and proceeded to land three shots in a row center rock. My Army buddy got behind my rifle and hit first shot, I said he could take a few more and he said "Why, this is too easy?" Still need to get out to 1000+ but my Vortex ranger 1000 really does about 800ish unless it's an ideal reflective target. Thanks for sharing!

[LRRPF52]

Here's the 500yd plate to give you an idea of how they cant them downwards to ensure no ricochets come back to the firing line.

I rapid-fired this one after I knocked down the 600yd like you can see in the video in ppst #2.

[LRRPF52]

Here's what the 1000yd range looks like from a panoramic view:

[LRRPF52]

This rifle fulfills the Light Sniper Concept I have envisioned decades ago. Handling and compactness of the AR15, with the reach of M118 Special Ball, but can still be used to fight the close fight.

There simply is nothing else out there like it.

[NugginFutz]

Here's what the 1000yd range looks like from a panoramic view:

I know that picture!

[stanc]

This rifle fulfills the Light Sniper Concept I have envisioned decades ago. Handling and compactness of the AR15, with the reach of M118 Special Ball, but can still be used to fight the close fight.

There simply is nothing else out there like it.

So, it's essentially a CSASS-Lite? Cool.

Have you given -- or are planning to give -- any presentations on the idea to the Army, Marines, SOCOM, AUSA, or NDIA in order to promote it?



P.S. Why do you have such a blank expression on your face in the photo?

[JASmith]

It' called "The Position of Attention" even though the slightly bemused facial expression might draw a few pushups from an aggressve DI.

[bwaites]

LRRPF52 does that face better than anyone I've ever seen! He also does the "I can't believe you just said that" face better than almost anyone!

[LRRPF52]

So, it's essentially a CSASS-Lite? Cool.
Have you given -- or are planning to give -- any presentations on the idea to the Army, Marines, SOCOM, AUSA, or NDIA in order to promote it?

P.S. Why do you have such a blank expression on your face in the photo?

Most everyone already knows.

[stanc]

Most everyone already knows.

Yeah, they should know by now. I'd just like to see a good, first-class presentation on 6.5 Grendel capabilities in the NDIA Small Arms meeting, and there's probably no one who is better qualified.

[bwaites]

Yeah, they should know by now. I'd just like to see a good, first-class presentation on 6.5 Grendel capabilities in the NDIA Small Arms meeting, and there's probably no one who is better qualified.

I vote for it! How do I get in?

[stanc]

I vote for it! How do I get in?

It's been a long time since I was an NDIA member, so I don't know the current requirements.

The NDIA site may have the needed info, or appropriate points of contact: http://www.ndia.org/

This year's conference is 25-28 April, which doesn't give much time to put together a presentation.

2016 Armament Systems Forum Themes:
• Overall Forum Theme:
“Shaping the Armament Enterprise to Meet Evolving Global Requirements”
• Small Arms Systems:
“Enhancing Small Arms Weapons, Equipment and Training in Support of the Warfighter”
• Guns, Ammunition, Rockets, and Missiles (GARM):
“New and Evolving Armaments and Subsystems for Future Conflicts”
• Unconventional and Emerging Technology Armament Systems:
“ Future Weapons: Armament Solutions in a Time of Small Wars and Limited Conflicts”

http://www.ndia.org/meetings/6610/Pages/default.aspx

2016 Schedule of Events: http://www.ndia.org/meetings/Pages/default.aspx



At the Small Arms System meeting that I went to in Tacoma in 1994, there was an exhibit area where manufacturers and other organizations could display their products. I imagine this is still done.

[LRRPF52]

I also looked at my drop data for 1000yds in the conditions we had, and reverse-calculated the numbers to see if the BC is correct for the 123gr AMAX.

If I use 2520fps for mv (which is right where I think I'm at with this load), with the barometric pressure we had, and the temps we had, looking at my real-world drop of 12 mils confirms the .468 G1 BC that I think is in JBM.

If anyone has JBM, they can maybe check and confirm. It's certainly not the advertised BC of .510 from Hornady. Even still, it's a great bullet that flies true for me, even at ELR from a short barrel, which is more than I ever expected for $27/100 heads.

[dfp23]

I concur with all you guys- this weapon should have been in the hands of all of our operators years ago... At the very least all DMs and snipers. I know I would have been a more effective Sniper. Unfortunately, those who hold decision making authority/ purse strings have never fired a shot in anger or ever will. Just my 2 cents based on multiple combat tours in OIF. I apologize for the rant- it's something that has always got under my skin.