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Virginia rally
#41
Old Bev et. al:

Do not allow this thread to turn into another endless argument with Stan over his beliefs.

Either this thread stays on track of it gets locked.

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#42
The guy on the right in the second photo: Is that a real M203 Grenade Launcher on his A4? Is he LE? I wonder if ATFE was keeping an eye on this rally.
I refuse to be victimized by notions of virtuous behavior.
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#43
Old Bob Wrote:The guy on the right in the second photo: Is that a real M203 Grenade Launcher on his A4? Is he LE? I wonder if ATFE was keeping an eye on this rally.
It looks like a real M203, but I dunno if it's a 40mm grenade launcher or a 37mm flare launcher. https://www.tactical-life.com/gear/colt-...launchers/

He is a member of a "militia" group. https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/virginia...-1.8421237

I'd be surprised if ATF was not there.
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#44
stanc Wrote:It looks like a real M203, but I dunno if it's a 40mm grenade launcher or a 37mm flare launcher. https://www.tactical-life.com/gear/colt-...launchers/

He is a member of a "militia" group. https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/virginia...-1.8421237

I'd be surprised if ATF was not there.

It's not something I'm interested in but the legal 37mm version can only fire flares, right? Looks "tacticool" but I'm not impressed. Rolleyes
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#45
Old Bob Wrote:It's not something I'm interested in but the legal 37mm version can only fire flares, right?
Apparently flares are not the only ammo option available. Here's somebody firing a "bird bomb": https://youtu.be/GzUD7xfPCeo?t=7

Old Bob Wrote:Looks "tacticool" but I'm not impressed. Rolleyes
Ditto.
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#46
It seems that the legislators did not have their minds changed by the rally.

[video=youtube;y_88jSlQnsI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_88jSlQnsI[/video]
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#47
stanc Wrote:It seems that the legislators did not have their minds changed by the rally.

[video=youtube;y_88jSlQnsI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_88jSlQnsI[/video]

Generally they don't. The main purpose of the rally is to show these folks there is indeed meaningful political opposition; and more importantly, to show their political opponents both current and in the next election, that there is indeed meaningful political opposition (and a source of campaign money).

It would have been rather optimistic to have expected this rally, or even one 10X larger, was going to fully stopped this train. What it MIGHT do, is put enough temper on some of the more extreme components, to dampen the sting. Outright "you're all felon's now" laws, might be tempered with grandfathering provisions, etc; in order to win over a few of the key swing votes they still need (and are going to get in the end).

While that still sucks, it's how it is.

Longer term, it means political opponents will see that this is a real political cause and source of future votes and campaign money, to helpful help stem the last 3 years of Blue Wave that's been wrecking so many states and cities.
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#48
I got to the rally late. Out of the seven or so other VA shooters I know well I was the only one who went out at all. Only two of them are even voters. Draw your own conclusions from that.
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