Texas Files SCOTUS Lawsuit against States who violated electoral laws

[MrDraco]

The SCOTUS rejected the PA case this week.

It wasn't rejected due to lack of evidence, it was rejected because it wasn't filed soon enough.

[lazyengineer]

Occam's simple question: Is it really that hard to believe? The most hated President of our lifetime, who barely won 4 years ago with a handful of votes in a handful of key states. Who has been the target of 4 years of the most viscous lies and the worst campagn of hate I've ever seen in my life. In the heaviest turn-out election of all time. (When heavy turn-out almost always means D's win.) Is it that hard to think that enough few people in enough few locations had enough of that hate, to vote against him?

And that's what makes me sad about this election. It's not that Trump lost. It's that racism and hate worked. Hate won. By people who's hearts were filled with righteous conviction of their hatred.

[LRRPF52]

What evidence? None made it to courts. Just allegations backed up with nothing. Nursing theories and claims do not constitute evidence or proof.

The SCOTUS rejected the PA case this week. They will reject the TX one also. Judges want proof, not nebulous conspiracy theories.

That was an emergency appeal to injunctive relief filed by filed by Senator Mike Kelly.

There is nothing nebulous about the size, scope, and types of evidence witnessed by thousands of election monitors and cameras, let alone the compromised election machines.

This isn’t about D or R, but about election integrity.

It’s in everyone’s interests to ensure we have free and fair elections, not elections run by Chinese, with Venezuelan rigging software, in machines that most States have banned from use because of the inherent back doors in those machines. I don’t like the idea of machines as it is, since everything is Digital nowadays and can be rigged with small RF antennae to send and receive data.

Again, you really need to watch the body of evidence that is voluminous. We’ve never had a contested election where at least 18 States now have filed suit against States where evidence of fraud is so blatant, that it was used to flip those elections in the early hours of November 4th.

Imagine if Biden had 306 projected EC votes on election night, with Trump at 214, and you woke up to those numbers being flipped with all kinds of ballots being counted in a short period of time that exceeded the standard deviation of normal ballot counting distribution by an order of magnitude that defies the preposterous.

Would you support investigations into these ballot-counting irregularities, or just accept it and welcome Trump in for 4 more years?

Additionally, imagine that Trump’s sons were crackheads who got kicked out of the Navy for smoking crack cocaine, and immediately got no-show jobs with a corrupt Ukrainian Oil/NG company whose owner had fled the Ukraine under money laundering charges, which were being investigated by the UK.

Trump calls up UK and tells them to shut down the investigation, withholds $1 billion in US aid to Ukraine until the Ukrainian prosecutor is fired, then brags about it at one of his campaign rallies, saying, “Son of a b*tch, he got fired!”

Then imagine Eric or Donald Jr. opening up a shell company with John Kerry’s son-in-law with a Chinese communist spy, where they get an expense account that just gets filled every time they run it dry on whatever they like. The Chinese businessman/spy then deposits more money into the account for them to continue spending.

You’re cool with that, right? No questions about the Presidency being compromised by our #1 enemy there.

So why is it different with Biden?

[Double Naught Spy]

I highly doubt anybody in the Republican party would have been complaining had things been reversed. You would be hearing people exclaim how happy they were that elections officials finally pulled their heads out and finally got the correct numbers.

[LRRPF52]

Occam's simple question: Is it really that hard to believe? The most hated President of our lifetime, who barely won 4 years ago with a handful of votes in a handful of key states. Who has been the target of 4 years of the most viscous lies and the worst campagn of hate I've ever seen in my life. In the heaviest turn-out election of all time. (When heavy turn-out almost always means D's win.) Is it that hard to think that enough few people in enough few locations had enough of that hate, to vote against him?

And that's what makes me sad about this election. It's not that Trump lost. It's that racism and hate worked. Hate won. By people who's hearts were filled with righteous conviction of their hatred.

Have you ever seen a President who has rallied and had more genuine popular support than Trump?

Obama, Bush, Clinton, or Reagan couldn’t continually pack venues like Trump does. They didn’t even try. No President or candidate has ever had the stamina and filterless approach to communicating with the people. My whole life, from people who identify as either Democrats or Republicans, I’ve heard them say, “I wish we had a President who would just speak straight and not have all these speech writers crafting the message for them.”

Along comes Trump and people finally got what they wanted.

While the media has run a 24/7 hate campaign, there also has been a swell of grassroots support, especially from people who don’t normally vote in elections. Even with the theft and flipping of votes, the fake vote tabulation shows Trump surged from 62 million in 2016, to 74 million last month.

Obama called for people to vote for hate in 2012, “Vote for revenge.” When he did that, he actually dropped considerably from his all-time high of 69 million votes in 2008, to 65.9 million in 2012.

What’s different now is that we have a President who doesn’t just sit back like a DC insider in the rigged game, and concede a rigged election like Romney did in 2012, or what many allege Al Gore did in 2000, or John Kerry in 2004. Fellow Bonesman John Kerry actually conceded quickly in 2004 because he didn’t want to do what Al Gore did in 2000, where Al Gore first conceded over the phone to George W. Bush, then changed his mind and asked for the recount of only certain counties in Florida.

When you see so many States filing suit against the fraud in GA, PA, WI, and MI, from Attorneys General who have access to a lot of information regarding the voting irregularities, you know that the likelihood of merits to the case far exceed what the Wall Street media are telling you.

[Double Naught Spy]

The Supreme Court has rejected Texas' suit...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurke...-election/

[grayfox]

DNS I hope you and all the never-trumpers are happy.
This may be the final kill-shot to the 2A.

This is one time that I would wish conservative justices had a bit of "activism" in them, to the extent of taking up an issue and correcting the gross wrongdoing that has been done to the country and the Constitution. Part of justice is to set right, the things that have gone wrong. And that, in my opinion, is what Scotus has failed to take up.

Texas has just as much standing in this as prior states had in complaining/filing about acid rain -- and the courts took those cases.

[mdewitt71]

All of the legal challenges have been lost because they consist of allegations without proof and seek redress beyond the reasonable bounds (you don't overturn entire states votes over trivialities).

They have been rejected by both D and R judges.

These aren't going to accomplish anything except seed doubt in legitimacy of our electoral process because Trump can't handle losing.

In the process he has preached rebellion and sedition.

And you support this. Will you really wonder why a portion of the population doesn't like firearms when you have armed protestor surrounding houses of election officials (Michigan) an attempted kidnapping of a governor (Michigan) because of inflammatory accusations WITHOUT PROOF?

I agree.....
As much as I dislike Biden/ Harris I said it 2 years ago Trump would not get reelected, no way no how... He lost way too many supporters with is mouth and his immature antics.
The worst thing we could do, is throw fits and claim falsehoods just like the left did for 4 years.. viscous cycle that only make good people look like fools or tools just because they cannot fathom their party losing an election.
There is more people that voted for Biden out of pure Hatred for Trump, just like they voted for Trump out of Hatred for Hillary in 2016.
I have been a certified election official for 10 years now as well as a DOD team member to guard and escort products from the Dominion Voting Systems Corp.
Unfortunately most of the hype or hysteria is coming from people that have no clue.

What needs to happen is Constituents need to be reaching out to local elected officials and letting them know what the people expect and want in leadership.
People need to get active in local politics and BE heard.

[biodsl]

The Supreme Court has rejected Texas' suit...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurke...-election/

That's classic. A state doesn't have standing in a national election. It doesn't have an interest in seeing the other states follow their election laws.

All the freaked out liberals and leftists who thought Trump appointees would be his lap dogs can rest easy.

Folks...fair elections are a thing of the past now. Oregon has had vote by mail for over 25 years. Liberal Ron Wyden unseated moderate Republican Bob Packwood in 1996 in our first statewide vote-by-mail election.

Republicans have won exactly one statewide Oregon election since we eliminated in-person voting. One victory in 25 years.

You can see how handily the vote was thrown through the use of Covid-inspired absentee ballots. The genie is out of the bottle nationally. I'm predicting we will never see another Republican elected to the office of president. Vote-by-mail is the nail in the coffin of fair, auditable elections.

[BehindEnemyLines]

Welcome to Commiefornia countrywide everyone! Disappointed for sure, but not really surprised.

[Fess]

For what it is worth, it seems that my local area is significantly different from where many of you guys live. Maybe this can help explain why the election turned out as it did. Based upon my personal experience, I really have no problem believing that the election results are valid. As a matter of fact, many of the people I know are actually surprised that the President got as many votes as he did. Overall, the President won the State of North Carolina, but it was not by a huge margin ( only 1.3% ). Many other Republican candidates did significantly better.

I live in a 55-and-older neighborhood in NC, which I affectionately call "Geezer Acres." For those of you who don't believe the number of mail-in ballots, all I can say is that well over half of those in my community voted by mail. My wife gave out pamphlets at our voting location on election day and noted just a trickle of voters. It seems that many older people around here were very afraid of catching Covid and did not want to take the chance of voting in person. Some others voted early just in case some illness or family emergency would have been a problem on election day. Maybe that helps explain the sheer number of mail-in votes. What I found surprising is that absolutely no one that I talked to voted for President Trump. That included quite a few life-long Republicans who voted for other Republicans in the other races. I did not realize that so many people really disliked or did not trust the man. Even my Mother, who is 93 (and has voted Republican for as long as I remember) told me that she thought that the President was vain, rude and a bully, so she voted for his Democrat rival.

I should also point out, that as far as I know, none of the people I asked are firearms enthusiasts, so the 2A was not a big issue for them. In areas with higher numbers of "gun people", things must have been different, but this is a snapshot of what I saw.

[Double Naught Spy]

DNS I hope you and all the never-trumpers are happy.
This may be the final kill-shot to the 2A.

This is one time that I would wish conservative justices had a bit of "activism" in them, to the extent of taking up an issue and correcting the gross wrongdoing that has been done to the country and the Constitution. Part of justice is to set right, the things that have gone wrong. And that, in my opinion, is what Scotus has failed to take up.

Texas has just as much standing in this as prior states had in complaining/filing about acid rain -- and the courts took those cases.

I voted for the guy both times, but that does not mean I have to like him. However, it is like I said above. The Republicans would not be complaining about the election has the events been reversed. They would claim it was what was correct, just like you are claiming the justices did wrong, the conservative dominated justices. What are we now, 6 conservative justices to 3 liberal justices? No, justices are not supposed to be activists. They are supposed to hear cases based on their merits, not push for their own agendas.

I can hear the statement now from one of the justices, "We did not think the case brought before us was valid or with merit, but we went ahead and heard the case and sided on behalf of the plaintiff because we liked what they were trying to do."

That isn't how the justice system works. Don't blame the SC for the failings of the plaintiffs. That the judges may have heard other cases from Texas doesn't mean that they will hear all cases from Texas, LOL.

All the freaked out liberals and leftists who thought Trump appointees would be his lap dogs can rest easy.

That's funny, because apparently some conservatives felt those justices were supposed to be lap dogs and have failed in doing so.

But hey, do you think if they could not get the case past the SC which is packed with conservative appointees that maybe the case wasn't demonstrably valid? Those are our people up there, right?

[LRRPF52]

For what it is worth, it seems that my local area is significantly different from where many of you guys live. Maybe this can help explain why the election turned out as it did. Based upon my personal experience, I really have no problem believing that the election results are valid. As a matter of fact, many of the people I know are actually surprised that the President got as many votes as he did. Overall, the President won the State of North Carolina, but it was not by a huge margin ( only 1.3% ). Many other Republican candidates did significantly better.

I live in a 55-and-older neighborhood in NC, which I affectionately call "Geezer Acres." For those of you who don't believe the number of mail-in ballots, all I can say is that well over half of those in my community voted by mail. My wife gave out pamphlets at our voting location on election day and noted just a trickle of voters. It seems that many older people around here were very afraid of catching Covid and did not want to take the chance of voting in person. Some others voted early just in case some illness or family emergency would have been a problem on election day. Maybe that helps explain the sheer number of mail-in votes. What I found surprising is that absolutely no one that I talked to voted for President Trump. That included quite a few life-long Republicans who voted for other Republicans in the other races. I did not realize that so many people really disliked or did not trust the man. Even my Mother, who is 93 (and has voted Republican for as long as I remember) told me that she thought that the President was vain, rude and a bully, so she voted for his Democrat rival.

I should also point out, that as far as I know, none of the people I asked are firearms enthusiasts, so the 2A was not a big issue for them. In areas with higher numbers of "gun people", things must have been different, but this is a snapshot of what I saw.

Anecdotes are just data. When you look at the bigger picture, it becomes painfully clear that massive election fraud took place.

Dominion machines are used in NC, for example. It’s a foreign company based out of Canada, with HQ in the US to look legitimate, that uses foreign software specifically designed to rig elections. Multiple States have fought and won lawsuits against having Dominion machines in their elections, whereas NC and other swing States still use it.

Once you mail-in a ballot, you have no idea how your vote was counted. Over the years, many States have been deleting the tabulation data, which is a violation of Federal law. When called out on it and taken to court, they have been called out for these infractions, but many States still use it so the parties can rig elections.

States that are known strongholds also have votes switched, to up the overall “popular vote” to make an illegitimate election look legitimate. What 2020 has shown us is that it has been going on for a long time, but the typical swamp rat politicians have normally played along and have been placated.

Another huge lesson is for those who thought they could still trust anything being fed to them by the Pravda Apparatchik of propaganda, 2020 should have clarified that for you once and for all.

[dammitman]

we must get back,,,In person voting (no mail in EXCEPT absentee by definition), Paper ballots (no electronic at all) hand counting and we MUST have a voter ID,,, no more illegal aliens or ANYONE who is NOT a genuine United States Of America Citizen can ever be alowed to vote EVER. If these things are not implemented we will lose all our rights in time and thats a fact

[Wheelhorse]

I can't count the times I've seen mentioned in our leftist news about "Trump's baseless claims of widespread voter fraud".
Maybe I'm nitpickin, but if there's ANY evidence, then his claims aren't "baseless".
I found this today. 68% error in one county using those Dominion machines.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/202...rate-one-/

[Double Naught Spy]

How much do you want to bet that neither party will pass any laws to tighten voter regulations? State/federal ID should be mandatory, absolutely.

The absentee voting issue is interesting. The federal law allows for it, but states often have their own additional regulations (excuses) you must have in order to vote absentee. Most states, don't have specific excuses.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-...entee.aspx

[LRRPF52]

The political parties, who are simply engineered teams who receive their funding from the same corporate sponsors, are quite happy with the way the system lets them manipulate votes so they can prevent guys like Trump from being elected.

It really ticked them and their financiers off when Trump was able to bypass the rigged system in 2016, because it opened up the game to players who don’t play by their rules.

So when I see Republicans talking about how Kenneth Starr will be testifying in some hearings soon regarding election fraud, pardon me while I don’t see much other than, “We investigated ourselves. Yes, there were some irregularities, and we’ll make changes to ensure voting is secure and fair....for the next election. Now get back to your holes, peasants.”

You see these same swamp rat names pop up over and over again.

AG Barr, AG for Bush 41, buried the Iraqgate scandal and demanded that the incoming Clinton WH/DOJ fire the only Boy Scout FBI Director we’ve ever had, because he had the audacity to allow FBI Special Agents to investigate “banking irregularities” and weapons of mass destruction components being sold to Saddam (with the help of the Governor of Arkansas at the time, since missile components were coming from contractors within AR).



Kenneth Starr, took over for Independent Counsel Robert Fiske, who had a young attorney working for him who insisted they dig deeper into the murder of Deputy White House Counsel, (who happened to be under espionage indictment from Director Sessions). That young attorney who pushed for keeping the investigation open before they even knew about Monica was none other than....Brett Kavenaugh. Once Brett Kavanaugh had been talked to, he caved 3 years later and let Starr omit the details they had related to the Deputy WH Counsel’s murder from the Starr Report, except for a few select members of the Senate.



Silly peasants, the vote-counting is for us to decide, not you. If anything, 2020 has exposed how the vote-rigging has been working for many years. Turns out there was a whistle-blower who brought this up to the FBI many elections ago, and they gag-ordered him, raided his house looking for hard drives that had the evidence on them, and never let the story see the light of day.

Meanwhile Neil Bush and Hunter Biden sell the Nation out to our main enemies, while enriching themselves. But I’m supposed to hate my neighbors who have the wrong letter next to their names because...they’re bad people.

[LRRPF52]

They’re all part of a club, and you’re not in it.

“They said, they want to keep their gun rights!"

[PVBoom]

That was an emergency appeal to injunctive relief filed by filed by Senator Mike Kelly.

There is nothing nebulous about the size, scope, and types of evidence witnessed by thousands of election monitors and cameras, let alone the compromised election machines.

This isn’t about D or R, but about election integrity.

It’s in everyone’s interests to ensure we have free and fair elections, not elections run by Chinese, with Venezuelan rigging software, in machines that most States have banned from use because of the inherent back doors in those machines. I don’t like the idea of machines as it is, since everything is Digital nowadays and can be rigged with small RF antennae to send and receive data.

Again, you really need to watch the body of evidence that is voluminous. We’ve never had a contested election where at least 18 States now have filed suit against States where evidence of fraud is so blatant, that it was used to flip those elections in the early hours of November 4th.

Imagine if Biden had 306 projected EC votes on election night, with Trump at 214, and you woke up to those numbers being flipped with all kinds of ballots being counted in a short period of time that exceeded the standard deviation of normal ballot counting distribution by an order of magnitude that defies the preposterous.

Would you support investigations into these ballot-counting irregularities, or just accept it and welcome Trump in for 4 more years?

Additionally, imagine that Trump’s sons were crackheads who got kicked out of the Navy for smoking crack cocaine, and immediately got no-show jobs with a corrupt Ukrainian Oil/NG company whose owner had fled the Ukraine under money laundering charges, which were being investigated by the UK.

Trump calls up UK and tells them to shut down the investigation, withholds $1 billion in US aid to Ukraine until the Ukrainian prosecutor is fired, then brags about it at one of his campaign rallies, saying, “Son of a b*tch, he got fired!”

Then imagine Eric or Donald Jr. opening up a shell company with John Kerry’s son-in-law with a Chinese communist spy, where they get an expense account that just gets filled every time they run it dry on whatever they like. The Chinese businessman/spy then deposits more money into the account for them to continue spending.

You’re cool with that, right? No questions about the Presidency being compromised by our #1 enemy there.

So why is it different with Biden?

But there isn't any proof of any of the unfounded allegations.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-pushed...1608693494

That is why they have been utterly destroyed at every level of the court.

If you want to actually, read something not coming from a right wing/QAnon/Psycho lawyer echo chamber you can look at the articles here on election law.

https://electionlawblog.org/


Other news

Dominion suing Fox and Fox moving so fast to debunk crap they pushed it will make your head spin.
Because they were complete lies and are subject to defamation lawsuits.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevo...al-action/

Here is another, suing Trump campaign, Guiliani and Powell
https://apnews.com/article/election-2020...c9f386a7b2

This was never about fraud. It was always about Trump wanting to win.
He made allegations before he defeated Hillary, because he expected to lose.
He lied about millions of illegal votes in 2016 election (never proven. Go Find Some).

He start the process for the 2020 election a while ago, attempting to cast absentee ballots as flawed and subject to fraud.
He repeated that.
We ended up with a PostMaster General who reduced the effectiveness by removing automatic sorting machines as a "cost cutting measure" .
He also reduced overtime and hours for cost cutting, causing other mail delays.
That was a transparent effort at slowing mail down. It happened and judges ordered him to speed up deliveries.

There were repeated attacks on voting machines, absentee ballots and carious electoral counting, etc. None proven.
Many more democrats voted early or absentee (BECAUSE COVID) and in many states they count those later.
So the early leads by Trump were overcome by those votes.

They we had the FULL RETARD "STOP THE COUNT" crap.
Stop the legitimate counts in an election, because you don't like the match? really?

4 years ago snow flakes were liberals screaming at the sky because Trump won and Hillary Lost.
Now its reversed. Only we have snowflakes getting mad about imaginary fraud.


Meanwhile Guiliani and Powell are talking to Trump about invoking The Insurrection Act/martial law to overturn a valid election.
That is sedition.


Babble was published about 138K votes for Biden in a Michigan county. This has been mentioned here as proof of fraud.
The problem is people here/see this crap tweeted and think it is established fact and resolute.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/04/techn...votes.html

Early Wednesday, images of an election map suggested that Joseph R. Biden Jr. had suddenly received 138,339 votes in Michigan, or 100 percent of the newly counted ballots in an update of the state’s tally.

The images quickly set off claims of election fraud across social media, amplified by President Trump, who shared them on Twitter with the caption: “WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?”


WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT? https://t.co/6487pYLZnL


— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 4, 2020
In reality, Mr. Biden didn’t receive those votes. They were briefly added to his unofficial totals on an election map because of a typo in a small Michigan county that was caught and corrected in roughly half an hour.


“All it was is there was an extra zero that got typed in,” said Abigail Bowen, the elections clerk in Shiawassee County in Michigan, just northwest of Detroit. “It was caught quickly,” she added. “That’s why we have these checks and balances.”


When Ms. Bowen and her team sent the county’s unofficial vote counts to Michigan officials early Wednesday, they accidentally reported Mr. Biden’s tally as 153,710, when it should have been 15,371, she said. About 20 minutes later, she said a state elections official called her to ask if the number was a typo; Shiawassee County doesn’t even have that many residents. Ms. Bowen said she corrected the figure and the number was updated.

FFS how can anyone with the ability to apply common sense think that is fraud. You can knee jerk respond about liberal media (NYT article), but statements like this (which you can research with Google) are easy to find in multiple places.

[PVBoom]

Here is an article from a conservative site, about why the Texas SCOTUS case (filed by an AG under investigation by the FBI who wanted to score brownie points with Trump and get a pardon)

https://lawliberty.org/what-has-texas-to...nsylvania/