Finally got rid of the copper and carbon...

[DIANEB]

It took a few cleanings but I finally got the carbon and copper out of the Uintah barrel...
I'm glad I bought a bore scope...

[tdbru]

DB,
i recently picked up a bottle of KG12 copper solvent. I've tried it a couple of times. amazing stuff. seems to clean the copper right out, at least to my looking down the barrel with plain old eyeballs. A bore scope would likely reveal more details about the bore, but from what I am observing, no copper. I don't yet have a bore scope. by the way which bore scope did you pick and how would you rate it. the KG12 has a pretty serious safety label so I use nitrile gloves when using it (toxic, avoid exposure to skin and eyes). However it is THE fastest copper remover I've tried to date. And I have to use less of it than anything else I've tried so far. one patch or after a long match, two patches.
best regards,
-tdbru

[Zeneffect]

so what did you use to clean it? I bore scoped mine when I got it before initial cleaning then test firing. Unsure what they used as test ammo but holy crap was it dirty.

[DIANEB]

so what did you use to clean it? I bore scoped mine when I got it before initial cleaning then test firing. Unsure what they used as test ammo but holy crap was it dirty.

I used Hoppes #9 Black #1 and KG 1 for the carbon and Bore Tech for the copper I also used J-B non-embedding Bore cleaning compound...

[garyrapp55]

That is squeaky clean. Time to foul it back in, no?

[DIANEB]

That is squeaky clean. Time to foul it back in, no?

If the weather holds it will get fouled up this Thursday...

[Six5x39]

Could you share what borescope you used ?

[DIANEB]

Could you share what borescope you used ?

It's the Teslong NTG Borescope...
It was $55 on Amazon...
It plugs into my phone and or my computer and you can take pictures and videos with it...

[Remington Jim]

CLR is Great to decarbon a barrel .

https://youtu.be/xte_pf3ZhsA

[Stinky Coyote]

and what's it gonna look like after the first few shots then?

[DIANEB]

and what's it gonna look like after the first few shots then?

The carbon and copper build up effect the accuracy after a few hundred rounds...
I learned this from the guys that shoot F-Class and PRC...

[Zeneffect]

When you do finally get it to that level of clean, it's actually easier to maintain.

You notice any tooling marks on the uintah barrel? I did.. was disappointed to see them considering the cost of the upper but doesn't seem to impact accuracy to a measurable degree.

[DIANEB]

When you do finally get it to that level of clean, it's actually easier to maintain.

You notice any tooling marks on the uintah barrel? I did.. was disappointed to see them considering the cost of the upper but doesn't seem to impact accuracy to a measurable degree.

Agreed it is much easier to maintain after putting 200 plus rounds through it...
The tooling marks are not bad in my barrel...

[Zeneffect]

not bad but present is all. I would like to have seen a lapped barrel honestly.

have you tried the other mirror set for the bore scope?

https://www.amazon.com/Teslong-Borescope...B085XXZQK2

its actually pretty nice compared to the mirrors it comes with.

[DIANEB]

not bad but present is all. I would like to have seen a lapped barrel honestly.

have you tried the other mirror set for the bore scope?

https://www.amazon.com/Teslong-Borescope...B085XXZQK2

its actually pretty nice compared to the mirrors it comes with.

Thanks, I ordered them...

[Stinky Coyote]

The carbon and copper build up effect the accuracy after a few hundred rounds...
I learned this from the guys that shoot F-Class and PRC...

to what degree does it affect accuracy?

I'm not sure a hunter would ever notice but I tend to clean every couple seasons but only hunt and slight bit of range time, mentally it bugs me but in a lot of research this barrel cleaning stuff is a bit of magic for sure. Guys chasing tiny groups in competition can see differences we mortals never would and may not ever need to for a hunting rifle, and if using bore brushes you just wear it out sooner. I only use wipe out and patches, seems to work.

As for the lapped barrels, I had a proof carbon, apparently hand lapped and came with an 11 round break-in instruction, shoot 3, clean, shoot 3 clean, shoot 5 clean...done and dang did it ever clean up fast. Pretty amazing. Was left feeling though half the barrel life already gone, my weird mind. It's still a pretty subjective topic, don't get too far lost down the rabbit hole for what your actual needs are. If you can actually see the accuracy drop then that's something and I wonder how many rounds that would take?

[Remington Jim]

and what's it gonna look like after the first few shots then?

Look at Erik Cortina’s VIDEO in my post # 9

[JASmith]

to what degree does it affect accuracy?

I'm not sure a hunter would ever notice but I tend to clean every couple seasons but only hunt and slight bit of range time, mentally it bugs me but in a lot of research this barrel cleaning stuff is a bit of magic for sure. Guys chasing tiny groups in competition can see differences we mortals never would and may not ever need to for a hunting rifle, and if using bore brushes you just wear it out sooner. I only use wipe out and patches, seems to work.

As for the lapped barrels, I had a proof carbon, apparently hand lapped and came with an 11 round break-in instruction, shoot 3, clean, shoot 3 clean, shoot 5 clean...done and dang did it ever clean up fast. Pretty amazing. Was left feeling though half the barrel life already gone, my weird mind. It's still a pretty subjective topic, don't get too far lost down the rabbit hole for what your actual needs are. If you can actually see the accuracy drop then that's something and I wonder how many rounds that would take?

+1. Excellent advice!

[northdude]

I just use ammonia to get copper out. Some people shit themselves at the mention of it but you just have to clean the ammonia out properly and an oily patch and your fine. been doing it for 25+ years and no problems

[Bonas]

to what degree does it affect accuracy?

I'm not sure a hunter would ever notice but I tend to clean every couple seasons but only hunt and slight bit of range time, mentally it bugs me but in a lot of research this barrel cleaning stuff is a bit of magic for sure. Guys chasing tiny groups in competition can see differences we mortals never would and may not ever need to for a hunting rifle, and if using bore brushes you just wear it out sooner. I only use wipe out and patches, seems to work.

As for the lapped barrels, I had a proof carbon, apparently hand lapped and came with an 11 round break-in instruction, shoot 3, clean, shoot 3 clean, shoot 5 clean...done and dang did it ever clean up fast. Pretty amazing. Was left feeling though half the barrel life already gone, my weird mind. It's still a pretty subjective topic, don't get too far lost down the rabbit hole for what your actual needs are. If you can actually see the accuracy drop then that's something and I wonder how many rounds that would take?

I've never noticed an accuracy drop with carbon fouling, but I run a single patch with CLP followed by a dry patch after I shoot, so I don't get much carbon build up. I see accuracy drop off from copper fouling after about 500 rounds in barrels that shoot well. I've yet to notice it in rack grade barrels.