NEW 6.5mm Prototype: A Tale of Two Bullets

[Joseph5]

My question is when will they be available for sale and how much? I get paid on the 29th and again on Feb 3rd.

[ricsmall]

Alright John, I gotta have a few (couple hundred) for testing!! Like to have had these for the glass shoot few years back. Look very nice. Digging the ali tip

Richard

[Double Naught Spy]

Very Cool!

[KentuckyBuddha]

: Fry meme :


Take my money!

[jawbone]

absolutely gorgeous bullet.

[BluntForceTrauma]

I wonder what the BC is?

Stan, I used an online bullet drag calculator and got a rough BC of 0.410. JASmith is also going to punch some numbers into QuickLoad to see what it gives him.

[sneaky one]

G1, or G7.? It should be close , or a tic better than my best calc. on the Gmx 95 grn. That was .390-.395. Glad you included my inner wide area idea between the bands- Lutz style.

I wonder if Bigfoot is still out there, or just Lurking- chime in old pal ! He loves this stuff, as much as we do. AAAAHHHH!

Sneaky likey ! I get first crack at buying some, & some with tips on the side... second experiment. Shhhh.. I'll put tips in later. Then we shall jug or gel test both ideas. Yahoo!
As a side note)== It is Winters bone here- yawn..... sleep more .com. Spring will reveal more- hang tight gang !



Old man Hornady is gonna fall over when he gets the - Other idea- from a 2-3 of us for the Gmx pill. Don't touch this post Paul...

[sneaky one]

Dependant upon results- back to the drawing board is easy for BFT, on his computer design program . His laptop is always with him when we have dinner.

Plus we have pencils- rulers, crayons, erasors, phones for pics-etc.

This should be cool, for a many. I chatted with RS for days upon this, and machinery issues that popped up, - and mysteriously were solved in a few hours- on the production of these pills. Time will tell. It's happening !

I think the rookie at the shop , finally realized what the machinery needed,,, and got it fixed! Production is up & running? Yikes.

[customcutter]

Looking good!!!

[BluntForceTrauma]

Trials and tribulations! But I see the light at the end of the tunnel! You guys didn't tell me manufacturing was harder than it looks, and that nothing ever goes to plan! First the wrong grade copper broke tooling, then, in the middle of the production run yesterday, bullet guy's bar feeder broke. Could've been months delay getting new part from Japan, but, fortunately, he knows what he's doing and finagled a solution. Back on track. But took the opportunity to make a fresh approach.

Fiddling with actual production run proves Cory was right in post #12 in this thread: "Why does it need to be exactly 95grs? Personally I'd hate to see a weight requirement deduct from a good shape and length." He was right. Hey, I may learn slowly, but I DO learn!

We've gone through hell trying to bend and tweak the design to match an arbitrary weight number. Finally, I said, "Just machine the bullet as drawn, and let the (copper and aluminum — and brass, but more on that later!) chips fall where they may."

So that approach — machining to the drawing — finally resulted in a total bullet weight of 89.7 grains. But, hey, for the sake of marketing and, oh, just an arbitrary sense of cosmic completeness, we rounded up to the next whole grain by very slightly tweaking the nose cavity, which gives us the 6.5mm 90gr Cerberus: 90 grains of sleek, beautiful, high-velocity, 6.5 Grendel-dedicated smack!

[kmon]

Those 5gr will not really be missed. Advice I have heard for years about Barnes bullets is run them fast and lite for caliber. With the small bands for reduced bearing surface and that weight fast should not be a problem to achieve.

Thanks for the updata

[stanc]

...the 6.5mm 90gr Cerberus: 90 grains of sleek, beautiful, high-velocity, 6.5 Grendel-dedicated smack!

I hope you'll forgive me, but I find these developments rather ironic, and just a bit perplexing.

The whole rationale behind the creation of 6.5 Grendel was to use very high-BC projectiles, launched at moderate velocity.

Now we have a complete flip-flop, with mediocre-BC bullets being developed for firing at high velocity.

Most curious.

[BluntForceTrauma]

This is not a "flip-flop" or new trend for the 6.5 Grendel concept as a whole, it merely rounds out the available offerings. More bullet options is just neat-o!

(Or we could just go all "Donald Trump" on the issue and say, "Who cares what the 'whole rationale' is? We'll do what seems cool to us!" )

By the way, this is not a "mediocre BC" for its weight. It's about the highest BC one can squeeze out of a copper solid of that caliber and weight. You looked at the photo of it?

So what we really have is both high velocity AND high BC — a very cool combo. For the hunter, it reduces both drop and drift, minimizing aiming errors for quick kills.

[Drillboss]

Cerberus, hmmm...

Did you consider any other mythological creatures to name this after? I've had mixed feelings about this one ever since their response to Sandy Hook concerning the Freedom Group.

[BluntForceTrauma]

Hey, they can't have a monopoly on mythical creature names! They have no right to ruin the good name of the three-headed, snake-tailed, hound of hell!

Next bullet, all-brass, is named "Typhon," another creature in Greek mythology. . . .