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Originally posted by mseric View PostThanks. Actually it's only one company. Ramshot and Accurate are owned by Western Powders and Johan Loubser is the head ballistician for both.
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Originally posted by sneaky one View PostIt's the same powder- out of same giant jug-barrel ( marketing strategies, they spoke of )== load as same as , they said to me . X-term is a great powder. Way clean, easy to dial in, find the top end. ,,, and it's accurate too.
without looking isn't TAC and X-term really close in burn rate being TAC a slight bit faster (almost to the point of only backing off a grain or two from X-term data on the Grendel)
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S-murf, No! .x -term and 2230 are the same, as told to me fom the guys at ramshot. Tac is slower than those 2. - Tac is faster - a-pinch- than 2520. They stated it would take more Tac to reach certain velocity levels obtained with x-term- but the pressure would be too high. - Always back off from x-term down to tac by at least 3 grains of powder.-------- BUT, DO NOT TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT BY-YOURSELF !!! YOU HAVE NO ACCESS TO PRESSURE TESTING EQUIPMENT, DO YOU??? More Tac than suggested will blow up you and your gun, don't rely on burn rates alone. Do a sh-t ton of research before you load off on your own.... I load only Tac for all my plinking bullets- 100-140 grns. In fact I use x-term only for my gmx hunt loads, and 85-100 grn. other bullets.,, yet that may change soon if I get a LB. of xbr-8208 to test out soon. Be safe, not sorry.
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Originally posted by sneaky one View PostS-murf, No! .x -term and 2230 are the same, as told to me fom the guys at ramshot. Tac is slower than those 2. - Tac is faster - a-pinch- than 2520. They stated it would take more Tac to reach certain velocity levels obtained with x-term- but the pressure would be too high. - Always back off from x-term down to tac by at least 3 grains of powder.-------- BUT, DO NOT TRY TO FIGURE THIS OUT BY-YOURSELF !!! YOU HAVE NO ACCESS TO PRESSURE TESTING EQUIPMENT, DO YOU??? More Tac than suggested will blow up you and your gun, don't rely on burn rates alone. Do a sh-t ton of research before you load off on your own.... I load only Tac for all my plinking bullets- 100-140 grns. In fact I use x-term only for my gmx hunt loads, and 85-100 grn. other bullets.,, yet that may change soon if I get a LB. of xbr-8208 to test out soon. Be safe, not sorry.
I was trying to recall which one was faster which I did look at the burn rate listing from Ramshot after post then reliezed I had the rate backwards.
I have even used 10x with some 120's the results was flattening of the primers a bit (AA Brass) thus discarded the receipe.
I like the 2520 which I like just have not tried X-Term yet however the claims of clean burning has really have my attention 2520 is a bit dirty even though I like the results.
During my post I did recall that the data for X-term and TAC are not a direct interchange but usually are within 2-3 grs.
Your advice is solid for those thinking that I was avocating interchanging the data
as usual thanks for your post
Reguards
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From Johan Loubser in 2009:
and RS-X-Terminator is slightly faster burning than A-2520"
Johan made the following recommendation for 129SST:
Caliber: 6.5 Grendel.
Barrel length
Bullet weight: 129 grains.
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Whether they are identical or merely "very close to each other", is there any reason to go with X-Terminator over A-2230?
Johan recommended A-2230 for a 20" barrel...would it be different for a 14.5" barrel?LIFE member: NRA, TSRA, SAF, GOA
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