Wolf Steel Case

[SHORT-N-SASSY]

. . . Seriously (and I'm not trying to be snide or insulting in any way), what possible roles did you imagine a steel cased el'cheapo wolf offering to be intended for? It's a cheap mild plinking load. That's it really. I'm not aware of anyone ever alluding to more. Maybe I missed it if they did though. . . .

"Shouldn't we be expecting more than 2800 fps at that [20"] barrel length?"

My sentiment, as well, John.

"And, in related news, WOLF has a full-page ad in the January, 2013 Western Shooting Journal featuring the WOLF Steel Case 6.5 Grendel ammo, as well as a side piece detailing the ballistics, '110-grain FMJ boattail bullet, with bimetal jacket, reported MV, 2,850 fps.'" (http://bullpupforum.com/index.php?topic=2148.0). . . .

In view of the above, if the street price of the new WOLF 6.5mm Grendel Steel Case ammo is compatible with their 5.56 Steel Case ammo, it's a great buy: one man's opinion. . . .

Variable,

Personally, I think the 6.5mm Grendel cartridge is the cat's meow. Not surprisingly, my expectations relating to its performance are set high. That said, . . . "if the street price of the new WOLF 6.5mm Grendel Steel Case ammo is compatible with their 5.56 Steel Case ammo, it's a great buy: one man's opinion. . . ."

Get some sleep!

[Variable]

Variable,

Personally, I think the 6.5mm Grendel cartridge is the cat's meow. Not surprisingly, my expectations relating to its performance are set high. That said, . . . "if the street price of the new WOLF 6.5mm Grendel Steel Case ammo is compatible with their 5.56 Steel Case ammo, it's a great buy: one man's opinion. . . ."

Get some sleep!

Roger that!LOL

[Bronz]

Good news.

Still got two unfired Grendels.

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ETA: Why do you Bold everything you post? Is that like new age yelling? (J/K!)

a. I don't think you are kidding.
b. Yes, it is rather like yelling.

Just be glad he doesn't also put everything in uppercase...

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Upon reviewing this comparison, one looking in might well ask, "Where does the 6.8mm Remington SPC fit in"?

Perhaps it may put matters somewhat in perspective to know that the 6.8 SPC crowd has been going through a similar experience as has the Grendel horde.

Back in October 2012, Tulammo promised steel-cased 6.8 SPC in early 2013: http://68forums.com/forums/showthrea...e-things/page8

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Has anyone tracked down or estimated trajectories for the Wolf steel case ammunition?

It seems to me that the sleek 100 grain bullet in the Wolf steel case with a muzzle velocity of about 2600 fps might track rather close to our favorite 120 -123 grain hunting rounds.

How does the BC compare?

[NugginFutz]

ETA: Why do you Bold everything you post? Is that like new age yelling? (J/K!) I don't get it?

Perhaps he thinks we are all hard of hearing and afflicted with poor eyesight...

[nincomp]

Perhaps he thinks we are all hard of hearing and afflicted with poor eyesight...

Wait a minute, that sounds like the side-effects of VIAGRA and CIALIS.

[Variable]

a. I don't think you are kidding.
b. Yes, it is rather like yelling.

Just be glad he doesn't also put everything in uppercase...

a. yes, I was kidding about the "New Age" part. I had no idea why he was doing it, so I just guessed something crazy.

b. he said it was something about his preferred font georgian vs. arial or whatever. Why anyone cares what font comes up I have no idea, but he does, and wasn't satisfied, so he changes it. I dunno? Whatever. To each their own.LOL It still looks like yelling.

[LR1955]

How does the BC compare?

Stan:

Eyeballing the bullet and taking into account its weight, use a .400 G-1 BC. I bet my estimate will be within one minute at 500.

LR55

[SHORT-N-SASSY]

Has anyone tracked down or estimated trajectories for the Wolf steel case ammunition?

It seems to me that the sleek 100 grain bullet in the Wolf steel case with a muzzle velocity of about 2600 fps might track rather close to our favorite 120 -123 grain hunting rounds.

If true, this makes the ammunition a truly excellent practice round.

Dialing in the 0.390 Ballistic Coefficient of the Hornady 6.5mm/.264 100-grain A-MAX for the WOLF 100-grain FMJ-BT (http://www.hornady.com/store/6.5MM-.264-100-GR-A-MAX/) NOTE: Muzzle Velocity from 20-inch barrels, respectively.

ETA: I just found this: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_2_453/2...age=1#i1882699

[Bill Alexander]

The answers are there you just have to dig for the questions.

Five years this has taken. Does anyone realize how complicated it is to just test the case coating. Then there is the balance of recoil vs velocity vs bullet weight. What is the intended application. Powder selection must balance the bolt speed for both long and short weapons. The round has to match up with the rest of the offerings. A bullet that throws a foot from everything else is worthless. It has to do this in the hot, cold, wet and dry. Bullet construction is another life sentence.

We ran coral sand in the system to check extraction. The gun was recalculated at least three times that I know of. We debated the support available in the chamber for three hours at the IWA show with two translators and the Izhmash designers

[SHORT-N-SASSY]

Today, in a brief phone conversation with James, WOLF Performance Ammo, Placentia, CA, I was advised that they have received a small shipment of the WOLF Steel Case 6.5mm Grendel ammo, and expect Distributors, such as MidwayUSA, to begin offering it by the end of July/beginning of August. Re price, he expects to be able to provide me a quote, by the end of this month.

I just got off the phone with James, WOLF Performance Ammo. He wasn't able to give me a definitive price for the WOLF 6.5mm Grendel Steel Case ammo, as he suggested earlier this month. However, he did say that the initial price would be a little higher than what WOLF .223 Steel Case ammo is selling for, at least for a while. And, he couldn't provide me with a definitive date when we could purchase the WOLF 6.5mm Grendel Steel Case ammo from Distrubutors.

[Variable]

I hope Wolf and the sellers don't screw this up by trying to get rich quick with a high price. They can "stick it" if they do. The whole point of steel case ammo is affordability. Why else would we possibly buy it?

Bill A. sold the Wolf Gold and the Lapua brass for a great price for a long time (thank you Bill!). That was crucial to building the cartridge overall in my opinion.

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The answers are there you just have to dig for the questions.