Originally posted by Costa
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What is the best die for reloading grendels
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Originally posted by YutYut View Postthe micrometer is a seating die. you will need a resizing counterpart. im sure you can find it cheaper elsewhere
http://www.forsterproducts.com/catal...showprevnext=1
+1. I mentioned the micrometer as it is more precise in the bullet seating. As said here, you still need the Full Length sizing die. The one shown in the Sinclair link is the set I use for the Grendel.Last edited by Guest; 10-11-2011, 04:54 PM.
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I'm an avid reloader, but not yet with the AR-type rifles. I'd have to say I've bought my last Forster die - they've come with missing parts and the last didn't touch the shoulder of my 7mm-08, and I sent it back - twice - to have material removed.
I looked at Redding bushing dies, but without a micrometer (a caliper isn't accurate enough) to measure with, the sizes are a guess, and can be expensive if you guess wrong. I just used Standard RCBS for sizing, and a micrometer seating die and did very well.
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Originally posted by Jaywalker View Post
I looked at Redding bushing dies, but without a micrometer (a caliper isn't accurate enough) to measure with, the sizes are a guess, and can be expensive if you guess wrong. I just used Standard RCBS for sizing, and a micrometer seating die and did very well.
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Originally posted by RStewart View PostPlease elaborate on a caliper not being accurate enough. I use a digital caliper with a Hornady bullet comparator on it. I have found it to be quite accurate measuring ogive on bolt and AR style rifles in 223 and 6.5 rounds. What are you seeing that causes you concern about accuracy?
I also measure the ogive with a bullet comparator, but with a standard analog caliper, and it, too, works fine.
ETA: Here's the link that led to my phone call to Redding: http://www.redding-reloading.com/tech-line-a-tips
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I've loaded for many varmint, bench, and hunting rifles using bushing neck dies. I've always gotten accurate measurements with a caliper. That said, I also always buy 2-3 bushing sizes. You may want to adjust neck tension, and different brass will defineately make a difference if you are not turning necks. I've actually changed bushings as the brass gets older since I don't anneal, the tension seems to change as the brass gets worked.
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I don't anneal, either, anymore; I figure that's a good point to buy new brass.
Instead of turning necks, I just sort the brass for neck thickness, where <=0.015" variation is good, greater variation is for hunting and offhand practice. Doing it that way just led me to Lapua brass and not worrying about it.Last edited by Guest; 10-16-2011, 11:00 PM.
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Originally posted by r3dn3ck View PostI've been using the Lee die set. Been really great and comes with the shellholder and powder scoop. A micrometer type seating die would be nice but I'm getting < 1 MOA from my loads. I'm hoping to get 6-8 loadings from the lapua brass. I'm told 10-12 is possible but I don't think I'll get that.
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The thing you have to watch with bushing dies is neck wall thickness. If the necks are not even in thickness bullet tension can vary. They really shine if you are turning necks. I've never had an issue getting a good hunting rifle to shoot 1/2 moa with standard reloading dies. The key is to measure shoulder set back and not bump too much. The micrometer seater is a good investment if you use a comparator and go off the ogive. For a new reloader I would stick with standard dies and get a headspace gauge.
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Case in point I have 2 bolt action rifles. One is a savage 110 that was literally a Kmart blue light special if your old enough to know what that was. Crappy barrel,terrible trigger. 1 1/2-2 moa gun on a good day. I don't care how good the ammo is it's not shooting 1/2". Now take the custom Sako,match barreled 7 mag I had built. It shoots in the.3's with several loads. All done with standard Rcbs dies. Out the bag winchester brass. The only thing special I do here is hand weigh every charge on an Ohaus beam scale. Where you really see the difference in match grade reloading is long range. Past normal hunting ranges. 600-1000 yds. Vertical spread is crucial in long range target shooting. Thst is why these cats turn necks, use bushing dies and use very expensive scales to get there es and sd's in single digit range. If you are reloading for an AR with a non match grade barrel then you are not going to see much difference.
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