Chrono Data

[rwade]

For everyone's viewing pleasure. I just chronographed some rounds out of my 18" Odin Works barrel. These were taken from a Magnetospeed V3 chrony. I plan on reloading the Hornaday brass with CFE223, CCI 450 and Hornaday 123 GR A-MAX. I'll post those results when done.

Series 1 Shots: 10 Wolf Factory 100GR
Min 2488 Max 2556
Avg 2529 S-D 18.3
ES 68

Series Shot Speed
1 1 2556 ft/s
1 2 2529 ft/s
1 3 2518 ft/s
1 4 2536 ft/s
1 5 2532 ft/s
1 6 2537 ft/s
1 7 2531 ft/s
1 8 2547 ft/s
1 9 2488 ft/s
1 10 2521 ft/s
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Series 2 Shots: 10 Wolf Factory 100GR
Min 2494 Max 2550
Avg 2515 S-D 17.5
ES 56

Series Shot Speed
2 1 2534 ft/s
2 2 2498 ft/s
2 3 2501 ft/s
2 4 2494 ft/s
2 5 2513 ft/s
2 6 2509 ft/s
2 7 2519 ft/s
2 8 2508 ft/s
2 9 2528 ft/s
2 10 2550 ft/s
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Series 3 Shots: 10 Wolf Factory 100GR
Min 2492 Max 2558
Avg 2523 S-D 22.2
ES 66

Series Shot Speed
3 1 2558 ft/s
3 2 2519 ft/s
3 3 2492 ft/s
3 4 2513 ft/s
3 5 2508 ft/s
3 6 2510 ft/s
3 7 2553 ft/s
3 8 2505 ft/s
3 9 2545 ft/s
3 10 2529 ft/s
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Series 4 Shots: 8 Wolf Factory 100GR
Min 2519 Max 2559
Avg 2541 S-D 16.7
ES 40

Series Shot Speed
4 1 2556 ft/s
4 2 2530 ft/s
4 3 2519 ft/s
4 4 2559 ft/s
4 5 2551 ft/s
4 6 2519 ft/s
4 7 2539 ft/s
4 8 2556 ft/s
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Series 5 Shots: 21 Wolf Factory 100GR
Min 2492 Max 2553
Avg 2530 S-D 15.8
ES 61

Series Shot Speed
5 1 2535 ft/s
5 2 2546 ft/s
5 3 2525 ft/s
5 4 2547 ft/s
5 5 2538 ft/s
5 6 2551 ft/s
5 7 2540 ft/s
5 8 2527 ft/s
5 9 2547 ft/s
5 10 2553 ft/s
5 11 2527 ft/s
5 12 2514 ft/s
5 13 2532 ft/s
5 14 2522 ft/s
5 15 2516 ft/s
5 16 2516 ft/s
5 17 2492 ft/s
5 18 2516 ft/s
5 19 2536 ft/s
5 20 2548 ft/s
5 21 2514 ft/s
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Series 6 Shots: 8 Wolf Factory 100GR
Min 2520 Max 2549
Avg 2535 S-D 10.5
ES 29

Series Shot Speed
6 1 2526 ft/s
6 2 2544 ft/s
6 3 2536 ft/s
6 4 2529 ft/s
6 5 2549 ft/s
6 6 2548 ft/s
6 7 2534 ft/s
6 8 2520 ft/s
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Series 7 Shots: 10 Wolf Factory 100GR
Min 2497 Max 2558
Avg 2536 S-D 20.5
ES 61

Series Shot Speed
7 1 2533 ft/s
7 2 2550 ft/s
7 3 2549 ft/s
7 4 2531 ft/s
7 5 2510 ft/s
7 6 2529 ft/s
7 7 2558 ft/s
7 8 2551 ft/s
7 9 2557 ft/s
7 10 2497 ft/s
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Series 8 Shots: 10 Wolf Factory 100GR
Min 2516 Max 2556
Avg 2534 S-D 12.9
ES 40

Series Shot Speed
8 1 2547 ft/s
8 2 2540 ft/s
8 3 2526 ft/s
8 4 2527 ft/s
8 5 2540 ft/s
8 6 2525 ft/s
8 7 2543 ft/s
8 8 2520 ft/s
8 9 2516 ft/s
8 10 2556 ft/s
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Series 9 Shots: 1 Hornaday Factory Match 123GR A-MAX
Min 2510 Max 2510
Avg 2510 S-D 0
ES 0

Series Shot Speed
9 1 2510 ft/s
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Series 10 Shots: 10 Wolf Factory 100GR
Min 2726 Max 2770
Avg 2745 S-D 14.3
ES 44

Series Shot Speed
10 1 2760 ft/s
10 2 2738 ft/s
10 3 2726 ft/s
10 4 2770 ft/s
10 5 2727 ft/s
10 6 2746 ft/s
10 7 2737 ft/s
10 8 2743 ft/s
10 9 2745 ft/s
10 10 2759 ft/s
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Series 11 Shots: 10 Wolf Factory 100GR
Min 2710 Max 2767
Avg 2741 S-D 15
ES 57

Series Shot Speed
11 1 2737 ft/s
11 2 2751 ft/s
11 3 2735 ft/s
11 4 2749 ft/s
11 5 2752 ft/s
11 6 2736 ft/s
11 7 2710 ft/s
11 8 2767 ft/s
11 9 2736 ft/s
11 10 2740 ft/s
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Series 12 Shots: 9 Hornaday Factory Custom 123GR SST
Min 2470 Max 2496
Avg 2481 S-D 8
ES 26

Series Shot Speed
12 1 2482 ft/s
12 2 2475 ft/s
12 3 2475 ft/s
12 4 2470 ft/s
12 5 2496 ft/s
12 6 2481 ft/s
12 7 2485 ft/s
12 8 2482 ft/s
12 9 2490 ft/s
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Series 13 Shots: 10 Hornaday Factory Match 123GR A-MAX
Min 2451 Max 2498
Avg 2474 S-D 14.3
ES 47

Series Shot Speed
13 1 2460 ft/s
13 2 2483 ft/s
13 3 2477 ft/s
13 4 2451 ft/s
13 5 2460 ft/s
13 6 2470 ft/s
13 7 2498 ft/s
13 8 2487 ft/s
13 9 2478 ft/s
13 10 2482 ft/s
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Series 14 Shots: 10 Hornaday Factory Match 123GR A-MAX
Min 2517 Max 2574
Avg 2537 S-D 16.3
ES 57

Series Shot Speed
14 1 2574 ft/s
14 2 2543 ft/s
14 3 2545 ft/s
14 4 2542 ft/s
14 5 2521 ft/s
14 6 2535 ft/s
14 7 2529 ft/s
14 8 2524 ft/s
14 9 2541 ft/s
14 10 2517 ft/s
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Series 15 Shots: 10 Hornaday Factory Match 123GR A-MAX
Min 2531 Max 2558
Avg 2545 S-D 9.4
ES 27

Series Shot Speed
15 1 2538 ft/s
15 2 2537 ft/s
15 3 2537 ft/s
15 4 2544 ft/s
15 5 2551 ft/s
15 6 2556 ft/s
15 7 2531 ft/s
15 8 2543 ft/s
15 9 2555 ft/s
15 10 2558 ft/s
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Series 16 Shots: 9 Hornaday Factory Match 123GR A-MAX
Min 2531 Max 2553
Avg 2542 S-D 8.2
ES 22

Series Shot Speed
16 1 2532 ft/s
16 2 2544 ft/s
16 3 2538 ft/s
16 4 2553 ft/s
16 5 2551 ft/s
16 6 2540 ft/s
16 7 2552 ft/s
16 8 2531 ft/s
16 9 2540 ft/s
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[s3silver]

Those are some impressive speeds from an 18" tube, especially that wolf 100gr stuff. Pretty good es and sd too.

[Sticks]

A little disconcerting that you jumped 200fps on the last series with the Wolf, and 100fps on the Amax (13 -14)

Different lot #s on the ammo?

How about accuracy on the Wolf?

[Kilco]

Wow crazy velocity! My 16" Odin tube shoots factory Hornady Black around 2350 fps... odd that you are 200fps faster with an 18"... heck those are faster than my buddies 20" Odin setup or my old 20" Shilen barrel.

[LRRPF52]

Wow crazy velocity! My 16" Odin tube shoots factory Hornady Black around 2350 fps... odd that you are 200fps faster with an 18"... heck those are faster than my buddies 20" Odin setup or my old 20" Shilen barrel.

My 16" AA and 18" Lilja speeds overlap each other with the same factory ammo and hand loads in many cases.

I've never have a chrono'd factory 123gr load from the 16" that low before. Most are 2440-2470fps with Hornady.

[StoneHendge]

A little disconcerting that you jumped 200fps on the last series with the Wolf, and 100fps on the Amax (13 -14)

Different lot #s on the ammo?

How about accuracy on the Wolf?

I wouldn't be surprised at a lot variation like that with Amax. I took JP's intro PR course last fall and ordered 2 cases of Amax from SG Ammo. I assumed they were the same lot (and didn't know any better there would be a difference) but they weren't. Didn't figure that out until the 2nd night. After chronolng on day 2 we went to the KD range. With the instructor spotting, I went through a mag - got all hits from 400-600 and did pretty well on the 700 considering there was a 20mph wind. Put in a new mag and started sailing everything high on the truing bar at 800. Adjusted my hold to get it hitting. Instructor redid my card based on the hold. I loaded up a fresh mag and proceeded to put everything low. Needless to say it was a frustrating afternoon but a lesson well learned.

I only tried the wolf once and swore it off after that nights cleaning session. I thought it was very temperature sensitive given the way the groups stringed - even at 100.

rwade, How does your brass look from the Amax's getting in the mid 2500's (see my "warm load" thread)

[Kilco]

My 16" AA and 18" Lilja speeds overlap each other with the same factory ammo and hand loads in many cases.

I've never have a chrono'd factory 123gr load from the 16" that low before. Most are 2440-2470fps with Hornady.

Tell me about it! Been working on load development like a devil trying to find a accuracy node with a higher charge. 28.5 8208 has a 123 ELD moving at about 2420 fps.. great accuracy, but I believe I'm over 50k psi so I don't belive I'll mass produce that load. CFE is giving me great velocities, but accuracy from 31.3gr to 31.6 was getting wild. I'm going to play with ARComp next... Hornady claims 2350 is where I should be with the factory black out of a 16" tube... Never tried any of the old hornady match with the AMAX or custom loads with the SST but I was under the impression the "black" 123 line was a re-boxed match line with a ELD instead of the AMAX.

Almost all other reports in reading people are getting 2400-2480 with factory stuff in 16" tubes, even though Hornady lists the factory 123 SST load at 2350 from a 16" test barrel..

My headspacing is perfect, brass barely grows from firing, only pressure sign I see before backing off is ejector swipes, have yet to see a CCI 450 flatten in any way..