Hornady ELD-Match 140gr

[Sticks]

sticks- Graf's is showing 130gr eld m in stock

-mike

The day before that post I checked again, and Ammoseek came up with a big goose egg for Hornady anywhere. Now it's everywhere again, and at $.28 per it's a no brainer since the last 123s I got were $.27.

I'm doing a little happy dance in my mind as I prepare to order up 1k.

[A.D.D. AR]

Nice! get 'em while they're hot! I still have 123gr & 140gr amaxes stashed away. reloading tends to turn me into a bit of a "hoarder" when I find something that works well.

-have fun with your testing!
-mike

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[Petri R]

Just put CFE223 behind of 140grs....you will get close to 750m/s, at least I did with my 22" AR-15 rifle with Nosler 140grs RDF bullets (even better BC than ELD-M ?). But CFE is more sensitive to temperature...in cold winter you go down some 50m/s or more compared to summer.

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[Bfglowkee]

I think the OP is in Europe and his powder options are not as varied as we are in the states. Otherwise Lerverolution and CFE223 would be options. I might have misinterpreted. Either way its interesting to see the Grendel pushed like this, especially in bolt guns ( which I happen to have ). One thing that caught my eye was a mention of RL17....I think that may be way to slow of a powder for this cartridge.

[JASmith]

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I think the OP is in Europe and his powder options are not as varied as we are in the states. Otherwise Lerverolution and CFE223 would be options. I might have misinterpreted. Either way its interesting to see the Grendel pushed like this, especially in bolt guns ( which I happen to have ). One thing that caught my eye was a mention of RL17....I think that may be way to slow of a powder for this cartridge.

[Klem]

Second,

For the 140ELD...

QL is telling me the max load before crossing SAAMI is 28.5/VV550 @ 58mm COAL. That said, it will be 111% full which means it's a heavily compressed load. You might not even be able to cram that much in. Or it could pressure spike. I usually don't go over 104%. I assume you are using a bolt gun? 58mm OAL is based on the max length permissible in an AR magazine but you might be able to load longer and mitigate the compressed load.
What is the OAL where it touches lands?
What is the internal length of your magazine?

The 140ELD is a long heavy bullet for the Grendel. I don't even use it in the 6.5x47, preferring 130gn bullets.

Have you thought about using N140 which will get you to the SAAMI limit at only 102% full? I think you will be limited with the 550 by the case volume. At 105% using 550 full you will be 100fps lower than if you use N140 at only 102% full (based on a 24" barrel).

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Second,

For the 140ELD...

QL is telling me the max load before crossing SAAMI is 28.5/VV550 @ 58mm COAL. That said, it will be 111% full which means it's a heavily compressed load. You might not even be able to cram that much in. Or it could pressure spike. I usually don't go over 104%. I assume you are using a bolt gun? 58mm OAL is based on the max length permissible in an AR magazine but you might be able to load longer and mitigate the compressed load.
What is the OAL where it touches lands?
What is the internal length of your magazine?

The 140ELD is a long heavy bullet for the Grendel. I don't even use it in the 6.5x47, preferring 130gn bullets.

Have you thought about using N140 which will get you to the SAAMI limit at only 102% full? I think you will be limited with the 550 by the case volume. At 105% using 550 full you will be 100fps lower than if you use N140 at only 102% full (based on a 24" barrel).

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[Klem]

Second,

I take it you know about how to fill your case as full as possible by using a drop-tube? Like a drinking straw or even longer. I've also used a vibratory tumbler to settle powder by putting your finger over the mouth and touching the base of the case against the vibrating tumbler. It settles the powder in a couple of seconds so you can fit more in.

That 139gn Scenar will be a different shape of bullet which explains the 0.1gn difference.

Should be a good test and I'll be interested to hear how you go.

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Saw your post now regarding to take another barrel in 6,5x47.
There is probably several reasons for this, and why I choose a Grendel instead of the 6,5x47 or 6,5 Greedmore for intance.

The only really good explanation is that I started to look for a small 6,5mm caliber. I already have a 6,5x55 so the easy way was another 6,5mm. The 6,5x47 is quite close to the 6,5x55 so when looking for a smaller one, the Grendel is almost as small as you can go with the 6,5mm bullets.
I like to explore new thing so the Grendel is a very, very small caliber in Sweden, almost no one have one and I kinda like to be the outsider. So why not. I built one.
Yes, there is better calibers for longer ranges and better calibers for extreme precision. But where is the fun in that...

I have a 11" droptobe that I used for the previous reloading for this bullet so if the powder needs to be vibrated also, then maybe I will look into that.

I will for sure keep the thread and forum with the info on the outcome.

[jbmarshtx]

Is your 700 chambered to SAAMI specs for the grendel or did you have it so you can load the bullets longer?

[Petri R]

My load was 1,94g CFE, 140grs RDF, OAL 57,75mm....740m/s (temp +10c)
also no problems 1,96g....748m/s (same temp and other things). But best group was 1,94g, which was about 20mm/5rds/150m

QL prediction for max load was 1,92g