12.5" Grendel 100 Wolf FMJ Gel Test: Devastating

[LRRPF52]

Performs better than 7n6

[Bearcatrp]

Wow. Anyone try this on a pig or deer?

[jonny rotton]

what is 7n6??

[LRRPF52]

Wow. Anyone try this on a pig or deer?

Yes, they have. This was not an ideal shot on a runner, as described by the forum member who shot it. It obviously clipped some guts, still went down within 15-25yds.

Most States will not allow non-expanding projectiles for rifle season on deer, but a lot of States don't care what you shoot hogs and coyotes with.

[LRRPF52]

what is 7n6??

7n6 is one of the several nomenclatures for the 5.45x39 AK74 cartridge.



7n6 was designed with a hollow nose cavity so it would do exactly what you see in the video.

[CaptnC]

So there still no 6.5 Grendel Wolf HP ammo out there?

I bought a bunch of S&B brass cased 123 spire point ammo back when I built my first 7.62x39 AR, so I have been shooting it...stI'll have a few cases of Wolf HP 7.62x39 also. It was death on pigs and and deer. With the S&B being brass cases, I've been shooting basically for the brass so I can hand load some .310 SST...

Any way...back on topic...if they would make HP bullets like do for the 7.62X39...it would be some cheap varmint/hogs/short range deer ammo.

Big plus...be legal to use in most all states!

[VASCAR2]

The only Wolf 120 grain Hollow Point was the Wolf Gold MPT (Multi Purpose Tactical) manufactured by Prvi Parizan in Serbia. Wolf imported this ammo which was loaded in brass cases which used large rifle primers. Quality seemed better on lots imported by Wolf but the brass was pretty soft. Prvi Partizan sold this ammo under their own label (PPU) but recalled all their 6.5 Grendel ammo a couple years ago. The ammo sold as PPU quality varied quite a bit lot to lot and was pulled off the market.

[HuntTXhogs]

Would it benefit performance to cut the tips off and drill 1/16” into the center thereby creating and expansion cavity ?

Figure to not reduce the weight by much but create a pocket to assist yaw and drag

[montana]

If the bullet base has exposed lead and you make the hollow point too big, I have read it can actually shoot the lead out of the bullet jacket. Whether this has been proven I do not know.

[depletedyourcranium]

The hollow point bimetal bullets Wolf loads in their .223 ammo don't behave any differently than their FMJ. Unless there is some specific weakness built into the jacket, like the precut creases in the 7.62 8M3 'Sapson' bullet, just creating a hollow tip in the bullet is unlikely to create expansion.

However, doing so might satisfy state regulations for not using FMJ projectiles... just depends on the wording.

[BluntForceTrauma]

Transcribed some of his comments from the 6.5 Grendel Wolf 100FMJ gel-test video:

"One of the things I like about doing this ballistic testing is when something behaves completely differently than I expected. I expected that this would probably yaw a bit and I expected that this yaw would cause a fair amount of Temporary Stretch Cavity (TSC), but the amount of TSC that we see here is absolutely phenomenal. . . . The neck is about 2 inches long; the TSC is about 10 x 5.5 inches; total penetration is 20.6 inches. . . . The amount of destruction here is pretty impressive. . . . It’s really good performance for cheap Russian Full Metal Jacket (FMJ). You don’t really see that in other calibers. . . . Color me impressed!"

[VASCAR2]

I think Bill A’s technical assistance is why the 100 grain FMJ steel case Branaul/Wolf preforms as well as it does and functions so well in AR-15’s.

[HuntTXhogs]

Who is Bill A. ?

[A5BLASTER]

Who is Bill A. ?

Bill Alexander of Alexander Arms. Creater of 6.5 grendel.

[HuntTXhogs]

Bill Alexander of Alexander Arms. Creater of 6.5 grendel.

I know I know, ‘‘twas just pulling yer leg

Good refresher in this thread

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?8984-Bill-Alexander-on-Wolf-steel-case-ammo