100gr Nosler Ballistic Tip, performance on game (deer)

[ErikS]

I have been trying different loads and have found my rifle likes lighter bullets, specifically the 100gr BT.

100gr BT, 28.5gr AR-Comp, CCI 450, mag length in Hornady brass.

Does anyone have experience with this bullet on deer?

BTW I can't get the 129 ABLR to shoot worth crap. Like 3+ MOA. The 100BT is MOA.

[A5BLASTER]

Take it for what it's worth. I have only shot one deer with the 100 grain nbt from the grendel. A small one at about 50 yards.

Bullet exploded on the shoulder bone. Like it typically does with much faster calibers. Was hoping the reduced velocity of the 16 inch barrel and grendel in general would keep that from yapping but it still exploded.

Others have had great luck with that bullet. I personally won't use it anymore because I'm a cns bullet placement type hunter. I like the high shoulder/spine and neck shots and the 100 grain nbt just does to much meat damage for me.

Now if your taking heart/lung shots it would probably preform much better and mushroom instead of explode.

129 ablr won't shoot? What barrel? That's weird don't think I have heard anyone say that bullet won't shoot from their barrel.

[ErikS]

16 inch, with CFE. 1-8 twist barrel. I also had poor results with 129 ELD-Ms. My barrel just does not like the longer/heavier bullets.



I get pretty good results with 123 ELD-Ms also. 1.2 MOA or so. I have heard folks having pretty good results with them on deer even though they aren't sold as a hunting bullets. Cup and core at lower Grendel speeds work just as well as cup and core from any other slower cartridge.

I will most likely work up an SST load in 123 come next deer season.

[grendelnubi]

Try the AR Comp with the 129 ABLR. So far I haven't heard of one single complaint using 129 ABLR and AR Comp.

[rabiddawg]

[A5BLASTER]

16 inch, with CFE. 1-8 twist barrel. I also had poor results with 129 ELD-Ms. My barrel just does not like the longer/heavier bullets.



I get pretty good results with 123 ELD-Ms also. 1.2 MOA or so. I have heard folks having pretty good results with them on deer even though they aren't sold as a hunting bullets. Cup and core at lower Grendel speeds work just as well as cup and core from any other slower cartridge.

I will most likely work up an SST load in 123 come next deer season.

Who's barrel? What twist?

[Jeepster18_88]

A5Blaster, were you able to recover the bullet? I'm curious how much the remaining weight was for that bullet?

[A5BLASTER]

A5Blaster, were you able to recover the bullet? I'm curious how much the remaining weight was for that bullet?

No I sure didn't the bullet shattered like glass it exploded so bad. Dropped the deer just fine. Just lost way to much meat for my taste.

Deer was still flopping around so I put a second shot throw it, in the same spot the first hit, but the second shot was dead broadside. The second bullet punch clean throw the other side leaving a nice 3/4 to 1 inch hole.

So the second bullet didn't exploded but it didn't hit near as dead center of the thick shoulder bone either.

[ErikS]

Thanks for the input.

I think my barrel does not like the heavier bullets. My son's doesn't either. Some barrels like some bullet weights, some don't

[A5BLASTER]

Not very good pics but this is what was leavt of the onside shoulder where the first 100 nbt impacted at 50ish yards.

Total lost of the whole quarter, lost the heart, tenderloins and half the backstrap on that side because the bullet fragments shredded the gut sack and everything got covered in gut juices.

Dropped it in it tracks but just a bit too much meat lose for my style.

[rabiddawg]

60 pound deer wasn’t it A5?

Shoot anything in the shoulder you are gonna lose meat.

[A5BLASTER]

60 pound deer wasn’t it A5?

Shoot anything in the shoulder you are gonna lose meat.

Never lost that much meat with a copper round. And yep it was a small deer.

Don't matter the size of the deer when a bullet grenades it's going to shred meat.

Never said it wasn't effective, just that it damages too much meat for my taste.

A accubond or copper round wouldn't have done that much meat damage in my experience.

Not trying too discourage someone from useing a bullet simple stating what my experience was and the reasoning why I moved away from that bullet.

[rabiddawg]

I understand but feel it’s unfair to blame the bullet.

In the deer I have shot, I don’t find any more meat loss with the 100 grain than I saw with the 123 sst or amax I use to shoot.

IMO, you shot a small animal and hit bone at 50 yds. That’s what happens.

[A5BLASTER]

I understand but feel it’s unfair to blame the bullet.

In the deer I have shot, I don’t find any more meat loss with the 100 grain than I saw with the 123 sst or amax I use to shoot.

IMO, you shot a small animal and hit bone at 50 yds. That’s what happens.

Uhhhh bro hate to tell you but that's what happens with any size animal when you hit them in the shoulder with a bullet that is known to fragment too the extreme i.e. grenade.

Like I stated once already others use it and like it. Never said it wasn't a good bullet or that it didn't preform in a way too cause my deer a long slow painful death.

What I said was I hoped the reduced muzzle velocity of the grendel and the fact it was from a 16 inch barrel would be enough too keep it from doing what that bullet is designed too do when fired from more faster calibers.

I'm sure if I had wanted too track it with my one good knee that day in the rain I could have shot it in the heart or double lunged it.

But I don't like tracking anything anymore that's why I shoot for the high shoulder/spine and neck shots.

I have shot enough with very faster calibers and with the grendel useing copper and bonded type bullets too know they don't thread and destroy meat as bad on those type shots as the nbt tends too do.

If someone is ok with lossing meat by taking that type of shot with that type of bullet knowing it will result like that. That's there business.

As far as blame the bullet. What else am I too blame? I didn't shoot it with a arrow or a dart.

I simple pointed out that. That bullet can and will grenade if you hit bone at close range. The size of the bone or the amount of meat attached too the animal doesn't matter. That bullet is going too react the same way it did for me.

Unless the range is longer then the shot I took. So the velocity can be lower and allow the bullet too mushroom and not grenade when it strikes bone.

You like the nbt. That's cool not trying too get you are anyone else too change what type of bullet they want too shoot.

All I did was present the facts of it from my experience with it.

Long winded way of saying. We will just have to agree to disagree lol.

[Clays23]