OK the old goat is back bugging you folks again. Was looking around on Midway at things this morning and ran across the Lyman Brass Smith All-American 8-Station Turret Press on sale and bought one. Seemed to be a great price so they roped me in. You folks have all told me to get quality dies when I buy - so I'm looking for 6.5 - which ones are recommended?
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Normally I like Lee; however some forum members have had neck splitting problems with the Lee Grendel dies. Hornady will work, I started with Hornady and only resized 100 pieces of new brass when I too succumbed to public opinion and bought Forster. Had to buy the sizer and seating dies separate because everyone was out of the sets. They shout quality when you open the boxes, very unnerving. Redding is the other brand that is recommend by many here and are supposed to be best of the lot. Each of the brands will at least double or triple the price of the next lower ones starting with the Hornady dies moving up to the Forster, and beyond. For their bolt guns, some of the fellows use Neck sizing dies of a cheaper brand and Seating die of a more expensive one as a means to get the needed quality at a lower investment.
Whatever you do, think it over, Hornady dies for the Grendel are about $40.00 and the best Redding die sets are around $400! My Grandfather used to say that, "cheaper is seldom just as good, but more expensive isn't always better." What are your priorities? What are your needs? Only you can decide what will work for you and how much you are willing to pay to get it, just one old goat to another."A Patriot must always be ready to defend his Country against his government"
Edward Abbey
"Stay out of trouble, Never give up, Never give in, Watch you're six, Hold the line, Stay Frosty."
Dr. Sabastian Gorka, Hungarian by birth, American Patriot by Beliefs.
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I have lots of dies but just the Hornady die set for the Grendel and with them have had no issues loading sub half MOA ammo. Good enough for me. I have some Forester and redding dies also but when the lesser expensive dies do that well i am happy to save some $ to use on more bullets, brass, primers and powder to shoot more.
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IMHO, the Hornady die set is tough to beat.
I remove the expander ball completely. Instead, I run Lyman M-die with a 6.5 mm (.264) Mandrel, right right before reloading, so as to assure a uniform inside neck dimension. It makes running brass a lot easier (expander ball drag is a ... drag); and that eliminates the need for lubing the inside of the necks.
So:
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-Wet tumble with pins (primer cavity oh-so-shiney)
-wet-lub and Resize with/out expander stem in the die at all - using Hornady Grendel die
-Wet tumble without pins (to wash off the lube))
-Trim (Doug Giraud is a very cool guy)
-Progressive: Mandrel, Prime, Powder, Seat.
I think the Hornady seating die, with the floating stem, is a pretty great seating die.
And then smile when the first shot out of a 20" BBL at a 1000 yard gong goes: "DING!"4x P100
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