Working Up Load with Power Pro Varmit PPV

[mel]

pretty awesome results out of the handloads today

5 round group + chrono data - 1 error @ 30* outside had 20 rounds to try but dropped 1 in the snow/mud loading the mag so i didnt use it
still at 28.3g ppv in hornaday brass , cci #400 and eld-m 123g bullets @ 2.250
#1 2476
#2 2464
#3 2467
#4 2471
#5 no reading
14 out of 14 hits on my 20 inch gong at 823 yards

ill get some group pics and video up here in a bit when i download it off my scope

[mel]

well heres a few shots for some reason the second clip of the shots doesnt want to encode so i can upload it , if u turn the volume way up u can hear the hits over the wind noise 5-7 mph winds today

edit just got tracking on my mid south order it will be here on thursday so friday or saturday i should get to try out those mid south monster match bullets

[mel]

turns out the part of the other clip was corrupt but i was able to cut the working section out of it. my sd card must be going bad
so heres a few more shots

im going to cut a disc down to 8-10 inches here maybe this weekend and make another gong to set out there

[Daveycrockett]

That's awesome. I'm thinking of getting some to try myself. Will be watching for results!

[mel]

That's awesome. I'm thinking of getting some to try myself. Will be watching for results!

if the cows out in the field cooperate today i will try again at 1000+ that was the plan yesterday but 823 was the furthest i could get out from the gong without putting cows between me and it
i also forgot to post the group picture yesterday which is this one , not the best but never are when im shooting threw the chrono all theese have been done standing shooting off a flat bed truck

[mel]

anyone got recommendations for a lighter bullet good for long range stuff ? so far ive just stuck with the eld-m cause well they have worked great , but i wouldnt mind trying out a lighter bullet is it worth giving up the bc for 200 or so fps ?

[Lemonaid]

My Rap dose quite well with the Nosler 90 Varmageddon. BC .340, velocity around 2900. I would like to try them at long range in the spring.
Check out how they do with a ballistic calculator and they look pretty good.

http://www.65grendel.com/forum/showthread.php?20792-Rap-Nosler-90-Varmageddon-8208-Range-report

Pretty economical at around .20 each

https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.com/item/0011526129/6halfmm-point264-diameter-90-grain-custom-varmageddon-flat-base-tipped-100-count

[mel]

1100+ yards same load 28.3g ppv hornaday brass , cc1 #400 eld-m 123g

think the battery in my laser is going dead cause it wouldnt read anything over 103x yards but i knew i was behind my 1100 yard marker so i just left the 1011y reading in my scope from the laser and held over , on target in 2 shots
this is about the limit for the atn xsight hd as u can see in the video , so to stretch out any further ill have to put my glass back on or put the atn x-sight 4k pro 5-20 back on it
will probably be the 4k pro till i get an adapter so i can take video threw my glass scope

and picture looking back twards were i was shooting from when i ran up to paint the gong ( should have painted it before hand )


shooting position was to the left and back of the close tress in the center of the pic to the left side , if i drop back to the far tress its just shy of 2 miles of range

[tdbru]

if you look in the recent edition of the Sierra manual Alliant's PPV is the or one of the top velocity listed powders for the 6.5 Grendel. in the 15th Speer it's also right up there. in my 22" howa i've been getting great velocities.

for Sierra's 85gr. HP they list 33.8 of APPV for 3050 fps (assuming they're using a 24" tube). since i was running a bolt gun i rounded to 34gr. and got 2904 to 2949 the other day (40F). in the summer time (july - 80F) it runs from 2962 to 3100.

Sierra lists there 123gr. HPBT matchking at 2550 with 29.2gr. of APPV. and i checked, yep 24" universal receiver. and these would be SAAMI pressure level loads that Sierra lists.

Speer also uses a 24" barrel 1-8 and say SAAMI spec is 52K PSI (no CUP established). they're seeing 2483 with 27.3 gr. of APPV with their 120gr. Gold Dot Rifle. so i've been please with APPV with the 85gr. Sierra varmint bullet so far, and have some 130gr. ELD-M loaded up but have yet to get a chance to run them.

from my data you can see there is some temp dependence that i've noted. ymmv of course, and there are many useful powders for the Grendel. but so far i'm liking what i'm seeing with APPV with respect to velocity.
-tdbru

[mel]

tommorow i get to try out the midsouth monster match bullets hoping they shoot well , i think im going to order up some 107g tmk's to try out as well
swapping the 4k pro onto my grendel as its much better suited to 1000y+ in a 20 inch target

[mel]

at home for lunch and the stuff from midsouth just showed up , after lunch ill go load up some rounds and shoot soome groups with them at 100 and see how they do

[Bobke]

Ran a small qty of 123gr Nosler CC?s at 62d and 1200 ft altitude. 28.5gr PPV, CCI 41 primer, 2.26? OAL. 5@2413 avg, 6.2 SD. Not the velocity I was expecting, but good chrono numbers.

[mel]

my grendel does not apear to like the mid south monster match bullets
first round group of 5

second group of only 4


28.3g ppv 123g midsouth mm bullet , hornaday brass cci #400 2.250 oal

on the other hand the 6.5 cm shot the best it ever has using the same load ive been using witht he eld-m's in it

so im going to order a 500 pack of the mid south stuff for the cm but ill snag a few more to play with in the grendel to see if i cant improve the group before i buy any more eld-m'd for the grendel , that 250count bag of them i just bought should last me atleast a lil while

chrono data for 5 rounds out of the grendel was
2480
2482
2491
2194
2481

[mel]

quick question if u leave the load the same and increase oal but pick up roughly 80fps what does that mean? I loaded to max mag length today rounds chamber and extract unfired without issues without leaving marks on the bullets accuracy increased a lil bit as well

[A5BLASTER]

quick question if u leave the load the same and increase oal but pick up roughly 80fps what does that mean? I loaded to max mag length today rounds chamber and extract unfired without issues without leaving marks on the bullets accuracy increased a lil bit as well

Your pressure increased slightly because the bullet is starting much closer to the rifling now.

Only two things increase velocity. Powder charge and having the jump close too the lands are touching them.

This is why you need the tools to accurately measure each bullets jump.