Temp insensitive powder for Berger 130gr AR Hybrid

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  • TejasPS
    Unwashed
    • Oct 2019
    • 17

    Temp insensitive powder for Berger 130gr AR Hybrid

    Can someone recommend a temp controlled powder(s) for the Berger 130gr AR Hybrids? I am using 8208XBR for 130gr TGK.
  • A5BLASTER
    Chieftain
    • Mar 2015
    • 6192

    #2
    H4895

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    • 65GbySeven
      Warrior
      • Dec 2018
      • 161

      #3
      I've had good luck with ARCOMP and 129SST, 129 Interlocks, &130RDF's.

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      • Klem
        Chieftain
        • Aug 2013
        • 3513

        #4
        H4895

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        • jbmarshtx
          Bloodstained
          • Dec 2017
          • 96

          #5
          As posted, I am using H4895 as well with the 130 hybrids. I don't know velocity, etc. If you don't have any, good luck finding some!!

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          • Mesa1978
            Warrior
            • May 2015
            • 255

            #6
            H4895 :nod

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            • 65GbySeven
              Warrior
              • Dec 2018
              • 161

              #7
              Guess I need to try a little H4895 for my 129 ABLR's that are in transit...

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              • 6.5 Grendel
                Warrior
                • Nov 2015
                • 199

                #8
                Have you tried Leverevelotion?
                "One Good Shot Is All I Need."

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                • Happy2Shoot
                  Warrior
                  • Nov 2018
                  • 624

                  #9
                  I had good luck with VARGET.

                  130gr Berger OTM Hybrid
                  Hornady Case New
                  Federal Gold Medal Match AR Primers
                  COAL 2.244
                  VARGET 24.2gr was the sweet spot for my 24" Liberty / Satern button rifled barrel
                  3/4 MOA

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                  • biodsl
                    Chieftain
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 1718

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 6.5 Grendel View Post
                    Have you tried Leverevelotion?
                    Lever seems to be somewhat available today.
                    Paul Peloquin

                    Did government credibility die of Covid or with Covid?

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                    • PVBoom
                      Warrior
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 406

                      #11
                      Midway has H4895 in stock

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                      • jbmarshtx
                        Bloodstained
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 96

                        #12
                        Originally posted by PVBoom View Post
                        Midway has H4895 in stock
                        If they notified you it was gone earlier today...

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                        • Rosecrans1
                          Warrior
                          • Feb 2019
                          • 435

                          #13
                          I worked with the Berger 130 Hybrids quite a bit. Here is some data for you for H4895 and Varget.
                          All numbers generated from a Ruger American Predator, 22" barrel. Shot in April this year at 62F / Avg of 5 shots.
                          No airborne Covid19 particulates noted)

                          H4895
                          26.6gr = 2254fps / SD=6.1 (<1 MOA)
                          26.8gr = 2262fps / SD=6.8 (1 MOA)
                          27.0gr = 2275fps / SD=12.2 (+1 MOA)
                          27.2gr = 2330fps / SD=9.7 (<1 MOA) Spike! No pressure signs
                          27.4gr = 2344fps / SD=6.8 (1.5 MOA) Some Cratering

                          Second Outing Doing 27.1 and 27.2 of H4895 (73F/Winds Calm)
                          27.1gr = 2295fps / SD=6.5 (0.5" MOA) case length=1.520" / OAL = 2.255"
                          27.2gr = 2320fps / SD=12.6 (+1 MOA)
                          27.3gr = 2340fps / SD=10.8 (1.2" @ 100 BUT...........0.70" @ 200 yds)

                          Next is Varget Shot same as immediately above:

                          26.6gr = 2204fps / SD=13.9 (Most Accurate at 0.73"MOA)
                          26.8gr = 2218fps / SD=6.8 (3 inside a half inch and two AWOL's)
                          27.0gr = 2233fps / Sd=8.5 (Right at MOA)
                          27.2gr = 2267fps / SD=13.8 (little over MOA)
                          27.4gr = 2274fps / SD=9.3 (Vertical Stringing)

                          And for S*#ts and Giggles:

                          Shooters World tactical Rifle Powder:

                          27.4gr = 2347fps / SD=14.2 (Really Crappy)
                          27.6gr = 2368fps / SD=10.3 (better but over 1 MOA)
                          27.8gr = 2386fps / SD=9.7 (hair under MOA, 5th shot moved).
                          28.0gr = 2463fps / SD=9.1 (SPIKE!!!!! Crappy) Cratering and *stiff ejection

                          *Not that kind of stiff inje............never mind!

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                          • PVBoom
                            Warrior
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 406

                            #14
                            Originally posted by jbmarshtx View Post
                            If they notified you it was gone earlier today...
                            Yeah, sorry, a little bit on me, I ordered 9 (8 + 1) myself, sorry.

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                            • Happy2Shoot
                              Warrior
                              • Nov 2018
                              • 624

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Rosecrans1 View Post
                              I worked with the Berger 130 Hybrids quite a bit. Here is some data for you for H4895 and Varget.
                              All numbers generated from a Ruger American Predator, 22" barrel. Shot in April this year at 62F / Avg of 5 shots.
                              No airborne Covid19 particulates noted)

                              H4895
                              26.6gr = 2254fps / SD=6.1 (<1 MOA)
                              26.8gr = 2262fps / SD=6.8 (1 MOA)
                              27.0gr = 2275fps / SD=12.2 (+1 MOA)
                              27.2gr = 2330fps / SD=9.7 (<1 MOA) Spike! No pressure signs
                              27.4gr = 2344fps / SD=6.8 (1.5 MOA) Some Cratering

                              Second Outing Doing 27.1 and 27.2 of H4895 (73F/Winds Calm)
                              27.1gr = 2295fps / SD=6.5 (0.5" MOA) case length=1.520" / OAL = 2.255"
                              27.2gr = 2320fps / SD=12.6 (+1 MOA)
                              27.3gr = 2340fps / SD=10.8 (1.2" @ 100 BUT...........0.70" @ 200 yds)

                              Next is Varget Shot same as immediately above:

                              26.6gr = 2204fps / SD=13.9 (Most Accurate at 0.73"MOA)
                              26.8gr = 2218fps / SD=6.8 (3 inside a half inch and two AWOL's)
                              27.0gr = 2233fps / Sd=8.5 (Right at MOA)
                              27.2gr = 2267fps / SD=13.8 (little over MOA)
                              27.4gr = 2274fps / SD=9.3 (Vertical Stringing)

                              And for S*#ts and Giggles:

                              Shooters World tactical Rifle Powder:

                              27.4gr = 2347fps / SD=14.2 (Really Crappy)
                              27.6gr = 2368fps / SD=10.3 (better but over 1 MOA)
                              27.8gr = 2386fps / SD=9.7 (hair under MOA, 5th shot moved).
                              28.0gr = 2463fps / SD=9.1 (SPIKE!!!!! Crappy) Cratering and *stiff ejection

                              *Not that kind of stiff inje............never mind!
                              @Rosecrans1

                              I think you re-posted your H4895 powder weights for your VARGET weights.
                              They are the same numbers and about 2 grains over book max.

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